War on Lake Michigan: Who will suffer more politically, Trump or Sanders?

Smeagol · Mar 12, 2016

Last night there was pandemonium at a Donald Trump rally in Chicago. Fights broke out on the floor and big kudos going out to the Chicago Police Department for keeping things from getting worse. My question is who do you think will pay the price with voters? It was a Trump rally and the media has pretty much blamed him for creating at atmosphere of hostility by use of incendiary rhetoric. At the same time, it seems it was Sanders supporters who showed up at the Rally according to one report in greater numbers than Trump supporters at a venue rented by Trump, thus possibly constituting criminal trespassing by Sanders supporters. Ultimately, I wonder who will see negative fallout for voters considering a big primary election date is this Tuesday and probably too soon to conduction a scientific poll.

ChezC3 · Mar 12, 2016

Suffer? Neither Gain? Trump.

Hawkeye10 · Mar 12, 2016

Sanders suffers because this plays into the Crazy Bernie brand. I think this helps Trump in a few ways but I need to see either some reporting or how FL/OH/IL goes to know for sure.

DA60 · Mar 12, 2016

The War on Lake Michigan?

A bit of an overblown name, don't you think?

As for who benefits?

Don't know and don't much care.

The whole election campaign is a mess and it is only mid March. By the convention, it won't much matter, imo.

Bucky · Mar 12, 2016

Hawkeye10 said:
Sanders suffers because this plays into the Crazy Bernie brand. I think this helps Trump in a few ways but I need to see either some reporting or how FL/OH/IL goes to know for sure.

The Bernie supporters are just like Justin Bieber groupies. Mindless robots that would do anything for their leader.

Hawkeye10 · Mar 12, 2016

Bucky said:
The Bernie supporters are just like Justin Bieber groupies. Mindless robots that would do anything for their leader.

And it seems that more than a few believe in vigilante justice, and Bernie cheers them on, which will be a huge blot on his legacy. Trump supporters want to do things the right way, by elections and law changes, but dont hold your breath waiting for the Corporate Class Propaganda Machine to say so.

Linc · Mar 12, 2016

Hawkeye10 said:
Sanders suffers because this plays into the Crazy Bernie brand. I think this helps Trump in a few ways but I need to see either some reporting or how FL/OH/IL goes to know for sure.

How do you feel about trump finishing a distant 3rd tonight in Wyoming with 7.2%??
Barely ahead of Uncommitted at 7.0 % !! :lamo

Hawkeye10 · Mar 12, 2016

NIMBY said:
How do you feel about trump finishing a distant 3rd tonight in Wyoming with 7.2%??
Barely ahead of Uncommitted at 7.0 % !! :lamo

I know some Wyoming mormons, this is not a surprise.

Linc · Mar 12, 2016

Hawkeye10 said:
And it seems that more than a few believe in vigilante justice, and Bernie cheers them on, which will be a huge blot on his legacy. Trump supporters want to do things the right way, by elections and law changes, but dont hold your breath waiting for the Corporate Class Propaganda Machine to say so.

Bernie is not cheering on vigilante justice.
That's just another Blatant Irrational Lie from the trump kamp .

Linc · Mar 12, 2016

Hawkeye10 said:
I know some Wyoming mormons, this is not a surprise.

Are you trying to say that 92.8% of Wyoming Citizens are Mormons?
The Mountain time zone is TrusTed's firewall.
I hope to help cruz here in Illinois next Tuesday also .

reinoe · Mar 12, 2016

Hawkeye10 said:
I know some Wyoming mormons, this is not a surprise.

If the 2008 Wyoming caucuses are anything to go by then this assures us that Trump will be the nominee and Cruz won't be.

Hawkeye10 · Mar 12, 2016

reinoe said:
If the 2008 Wyoming caucuses are anything to go by then this assures us that Trump will be the nominee and Cruz won't be.

Wyoming is a very strange place.

Usually no one cares.

Μολὼν λαβέ · Mar 13, 2016

NIMBY said:
Bernie is not cheering on vigilante justice.
That's just another Blatant Irrational Lie from the trump kamp .

Bernie is too weak to be accused of that. I knew he would fade away sooner rather than than later after a black woman from BLM I believe, took the microphone away from him at his own event and he just let it happen.

Linc · Mar 13, 2016

Μολὼν λαβέ;1065655668 said:
Bernie is too weak to be accused of that. I knew he would fade away sooner rather than than later after a black woman from BLM I believe, took the microphone away from him at his own event and he just let it happen.

Each party has their own unique set of problems.
Hillary's people have to play nice with Bernie's but not vice-versa.
Cruz comes on TV after trump cancels and takes him to task--cruz crushes trump in Wyoming tonight.

We actually had barricades up north of my small town in 1968 heading towards Chicago.
Imagine if we'd have had the Internet back then, with 300 dead soldiers every week in Vietnam.

Better than three or more parties as in Europe though, right?
Imagine having to sell out to a fringe party to form a government. :lamo
Instead we sell out to fringe elements in each party .

eace

Dittohead not! · Mar 13, 2016

Let's see if I have this straight: Trump runs his mouth about punching out protesters, Trump's rally turns to chaos, and it's all Bernie Sanders' fault.

Still working on that logic.

Trump is likely to be the easiest opponent to beat in the general election, and so Democrats are trying to disrupt his rallies.

Still working on that logic, too.

Bucky · Mar 13, 2016

Hawkeye10 said:
And it seems that more than a few believe in vigilante justice, and Bernie cheers them on, which will be a huge blot on his legacy. Trump supporters want to do things the right way, by elections and law changes, but dont hold your breath waiting for the Corporate Class Propaganda Machine to say so.

Democrats/Liberals should be ashamed of themselves. They are the ones promoting violence, lawlessness, anarchism and hysteria.

Many on the left are already unhinged so when you have them comparing Trump with Hitler, it fuels the flame for their supporters to commit crimes.

This behavior is indicative of Bernie Sanders' values. If Donald or one of his supporters gets seriously hurt by these thugs on the left, the blood will be on the hands of Sanders/Obama/Moveon.org.

Shameful.

Bucky · Mar 13, 2016

NIMBY said:
Bernie is not cheering on vigilante justice.
That's just another Blatant Irrational Lie from the trump kamp .

He's certainly not disavowing those on the left comparing Trump with Hitler or those on the left saying Trump is a national security threat.

Bill Ayers endorsed Bernie Sanders for President. Why isn't the media asking Bernie to disavow Bill Ayers?

Makes you wonder.....

Sweden · Mar 13, 2016

NIMBY said:
Bernie is not cheering on vigilante justice.
That's just another Blatant Irrational Lie from the trump kamp .

Now that is clever. Spell camp with a 'k' and it looks sort of German. Hitler was German (OK, Austrian but the left doesn't do facts). Get it?

Hawkeye10 · Mar 13, 2016

Bucky said:
Democrats/Liberals should be ashamed of themselves. They are the ones promoting violence, lawlessness, anarchism and hysteria.

Many on the left are already unhinged so when you have them comparing Trump with Hitler, it fuels the flame for their supporters to commit crimes.

This behavior is indicative of Bernie Sanders' values. If Donald or one of his supporters gets seriously hurt by these thugs on the left, the blood will be on the hands of Sanders/Obama/Moveon.org.

Shameful.

We will know in a few days how committed to Nuking WAshington the people are. The elite are throwing everything they have at the Trump Revolution right now, at the moment the R and D elite are teamed up on Trump.

Attacks have always made him stronger.

I just dont know.

This is David and Goliath, The Washington Elite V The Builder.

Trump is David in this telling.

Hawkeye10 · Mar 13, 2016

Dittohead not! said:
Let's see if I have this straight: Trump runs his mouth about punching out protesters, Trump's rally turns to chaos, and it's all Bernie Sanders' fault.

Still working on that logic.

Trump is likely to be the easiest opponent to beat in the general election, and so Democrats are trying to disrupt his rallies.

Still working on that logic, too.

And Obama, and probably Soros.

Geoist · Mar 13, 2016

Bucky said:
The Bernie supporters are just like Justin Bieber groupies. Mindless robots that would do anything for their leader.

Has Bernie made his followers pledge themselves to him?

RabidAlpaca · Mar 13, 2016

Hawkeye10 said:
And it seems that more than a few believe in vigilante justice, and Bernie cheers them on, which will be a huge blot on his legacy. Trump supporters want to do things the right way, by elections and law changes, but dont hold your breath waiting for the Corporate Class Propaganda Machine to say so.

LOL. People regularly get attacked at Trump rallies, which is encouraged by Trump, and yet you place the blame on the supporters who weren't encouraged by Bernie getting attacked? LOL. Trump supporters live in an alternate universe.

Geoist said:
Has Bernie made his followers pledge themselves to him?

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Geoist · Mar 13, 2016

Hawkeye10 said:
Wyoming is a very strange place.

Wyoming tends to be far more libertarian than the redneck South. They are a brand of conservatives who do not appreciate the authoritarian tendencies of Drumpf.

Geoist · Mar 13, 2016

Dittohead not! said:
Let's see if I have this straight: Trump runs his mouth about punching out protesters, Trump's rally turns to chaos, and it's all Bernie Sanders' fault.

And his followers will buy into it hook, line, and sinker.

Geoist · Mar 13, 2016

Bucky said:
Democrats/Liberals should be ashamed of themselves. They are the ones promoting violence, lawlessness, anarchism and hysteria.

Many on the left are already unhinged so when you have them comparing Trump with Hitler, it fuels the flame for their supporters to commit crimes.

This behavior is indicative of Bernie Sanders' values. If Donald or one of his supporters gets seriously hurt by these thugs on the left, the blood will be on the hands of Sanders/Obama/Moveon.org.

Shameful.

You have got to be ******* kidding me...

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