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Who Will Drop Out Now?

Who will drop out because of the NH Primary?


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To answer the OP poll, I selected Carson. We already know Christie is about to suspend his campaign. Fiorina isn't going anywhere. Gilmore, bless his heart, only got about 125 votes here yesterday, but I see him staying in for a while but not really doing much, just like what happened here in NH. He didn't even send any mailing pieces until 3 days before the election. That said, Carson is the next to go. He didn't even stick around for his campaign party last night. Unless by some miracle he wins SC, he will drop out the next day.
 
I agree. Jeb was the big winner last night. It looks to me like The GOP machine is well on their way to shoving another Bush down our throats. Thank God he can't win.

Finishing 4th in the state he was expected to carry easily when he announced is a big win?
 
Christie will go. Money is gonna dry up. I think he realizes his chances for undercard are nil also.

Carson and Fiorina are actually running for vice-president...and no telling where that is going.

The rest will stick around for South Carolina and Nevada...but after that, the establishment Republicans are going to batter anyone sticking around for ego satisfaction. They have got to stop Trump...because he may be the worst presidential candidate of all time.

My guess: Down to two serious candidates by Super Tuesday.

I pray to the gods that Cruz is one of them. He may well be the second worst presidential candidate of all time.

I actually believe Cruz is worse than Trump. He may actually believe his rhetoric.

Christie is probably out, but he did damage to Rubio. A lot of damage. Carly stays in because she has nothing else to do. Carson may stay in because he does not know what else to do.
 
Ack! No, we are nowhere near New Jersey here. I would bet money that most people in NH can't name the governor of Maine and the other Senator from Vermont, and they ARE near to us (next door in fact).

Christie's name recognition comes from the fact he's been one of the most talked about governors for quite some time, and his ads introduced him to people who didn't know him.

LOL - this comment made me have a minor freak out about my geographical knowledge. I get that New Jersey and New Hampshire aren't directly next to each other, but I wouldn't call a state that is roughly 200 miles way "nowhere near."
 
Whatever happens in the GOP primary, I will be forever grateful for Christie's epic takedown of Rubio last Saturday night. Rubio was trying to masquerade himself as a "rational" candidate, but Christie exposed him for just regurgitating rehearsed sound bites. Now the GOP will almost certainly be stuck with the clowns.
 
LOL - this comment made me have a minor freak out about my geographical knowledge. I get that New Jersey and New Hampshire aren't directly next to each other, but I wouldn't call a state that is roughly 200 miles way "nowhere near."

I grew up in one and live in the other. What would make you think that our local news here in NH in a non-primary day/month/year talks about the governor of a state that you have to drive through 3 other states to get to?
 
Whatever happens in the GOP primary, I will be forever grateful for Christie's epic takedown of Rubio last Saturday night. Rubio was trying to masquerade himself as a "rational" candidate, but Christie exposed him for just regurgitating rehearsed sound bites. Now the GOP will almost certainly be stuck with the clowns.

I actually take the opposite view. Rubio appeared to me the most palatable of the Republican candidates such that if a Republican were to win, I would at least be comfortable with Rubio. Given that possibility has taken a significant hit, I am more concerned that, should a Republican win, it will be someone like Cruz or Trump. *shudders*
 
I grew up in one and live in the other. What would make you think that our local news here in NH in a non-primary day/month/year talks about the governor of a state that you have to drive through 3 other states to get to?

Point taken, but I am referencing more to the notion that anytime his name would appear because he was in the headlines (Hurricane Sandy or shutting down the bridge, for example) that folks in New Hampshire would be more inclined to pay attention and remember him because of the geographical proximity or because they might know someone living in the state of New Jersey. The same principle would apply once the primary season began.
 
Ack! No, we are nowhere near New Jersey here. I would bet money that most people in NH can't name the governor of Maine and the other Senator from Vermont, and they ARE near to us (next door in fact).

Christie's name recognition comes from the fact he's been one of the most talked about governors for quite some time, and his ads introduced him to people who didn't know him.

Greetings, tres borrachos. :2wave:

You know, in a way I'm going to miss Christie's abrasiveness. I recall the GOP debates where the moderators were attempting to pit the candidates against each other, and how he called them on it! What I don't understand is why he chose Rubio as his target right before the NH primaries! Damn....
 
Whether any particular candidate drops out or not in the next 10 days before South Carolina votes - I'm not sure at all what is going on in Nevada's caucuses since we've heard so little about them and polling there - the dynamic in the GOP race has changed - there will only be 5 candidates in the next debate - Trump/Cruz/Kasich/Bush/Rubio - they will be the focus in South Carolina.

From my perspective, there are only two issues:

1. Is it at all possible that John Kasich makes some kind of move in South Carolina - I can't see going from 2% to anything significant in 10 days, particularly when he's not been doing anything in South Carolina to date. As we saw with Rubio, you need to grasp momentum and build on it quickly when you get it and I just don't see Kasich doing that in South Carolina. As a result, if he comes in 5th of those I note above, that can serious damage any momentum he has coming out of NH.

2. How much distance can Jeb Bush get from Marco Rubio in the next 10 days in South Carolina. Bush has what he needed out of NH and Rubio is wounded. Can Bush turn that to his advantage and mortally wound Rubio. I think he can. Many may scoff, but I think GW Bush campaigning for Jeb in South Carolina - particularly in the military communities - will be of great benefit to Jeb.

That said, I can see all 5 of the above moving to Super Tuesday - the only question mark will be Rubio.
 
I actually take the opposite view. Rubio appeared to me the most palatable of the Republican candidates such that if a Republican were to win, I would at least be comfortable with Rubio. Given that possibility has taken a significant hit, I am more concerned that, should a Republican win, it will be someone like Cruz or Trump. *shudders*

I respectfully disagree. He may not have the openly racist rhetoric of Donald Trump or the theocratic views of Ted Cruz, but IMO Rubio's positions, his voting record, are just as extreme.

Donald Trump on the Issues
Ted Cruz on the Issues
Marco Rubio on the Issues
 
Point taken, but I am referencing more to the notion that anytime his name would appear because he was in the headlines (Hurricane Sandy or shutting down the bridge, for example) that folks in New Hampshire would be more inclined to pay attention and remember him because of the geographical proximity or because they might know someone living in the state of New Jersey. The same principle would apply once the primary season began.

Bridgegate absolutely made him a household name, here and everywhere.
 
Cruz stays in....his huge Ego will never let him drop out before Super Tuesday. The only two possible ones (other than Carson/Fiorina/Christie) to drop out before Super Tuesday would be Kasich and/or Rubio...and I just don't see that happening.

Which will make his Presidential ambition failures all that more satisfying.
 
Finishing 4th in the state he was expected to carry easily when he announced is a big win?

He finished ahead of Rubio and that is all he needed to do in NH. You have to admit Rubio is dead in the water and Jeb is now the establishment candidate.
 
He finished ahead of Rubio and that is all he needed to do in NH. You have to admit Rubio is dead in the water and Jeb is now the establishment candidate.

And he finished 1 point ahead of Rubio. I like Bush, but I don't know that he should be taking victory laps because he beat Rubio by 1 point, which translates to 1389 votes. What's the message for SC and Super Tuesday? Vote for me! I beat Marco by 1389 votes!
 
I'm glad Christie dropped out, because that would at least help the other governors in the race. But, he has to find his footing to argue who he is going to support. Kasich got the 2nd place win last night, but until he hits the midwest, he's in an uphill climb against Bush and Cruz. Bush did not do as well as he needed to last night, but he's got a lot going for his run in the south. Kasich is a newer face to the American public and Christie knows him better than Bush.

Fiorina and Carson should drop, but Fiorina has an endorsement choice she has to make, herself.

Very soon, Republican candidates Bush, Kasich, and Rubio need to figure out who is going to align with whom in order to stop Trump and Cruz. Kasich's appeal to anti-Bush voters and the midwest is offset by his very real antagonistic attitude toward the base. Bush's greatest liability is his last name. It's unfortunate, but in American democratic politics, the American people are stupidly stubborn about dynasty candidates. But he has the money and he still has some pull in the south. Rubio ordinarily has the articulation, but has a hard time being taken seriously in the midst of large resumes.
 
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I think Carson did so badly in NH that he really has no viable option left to keep his campaign chugging along.
 
Fiorina isn't going anywhere. She has a much stronger ground game than people give her credit for. She'll stay in for quite a while in spite of the fact that you and I have as much chance of being President as she does.

I think she intends to stay in, if for no other reason than to have a public forum available to remind everyone, in her opinion, of Hillary's record of public service gained only by riding on Bill's coat-tails over the years. Fiorina has not been shy about being a woman who has fought against men who would have preferred that she STHU and remain in a secondary position, and just let men run things.
 
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I think Carson did so badly in NH that he really has no viable option left to keep his campaign chugging along.
He can campaign to get the Black Republican voter in South Carolina. Yes "voter" as in singular.
 
And he finished 1 point ahead of Rubio. I like Bush, but I don't know that he should be taking victory laps because he beat Rubio by 1 point, which translates to 1389 votes. What's the message for SC and Super Tuesday? Vote for me! I beat Marco by 1389 votes!

Good afternoon TB - I agree that nothing is settled as of last night's results, but the dynamics have definitely changed and Rubio who went into the weekend as the rising star comes out of last night as damaged - there's no other way to look at it. And Bush coming out ahead of Rubio is huge going into SC because the momentum is in his favour and he's neck and neck with Rubio there prior to last night.

The race is still fluid, but you have to like the trend for Bush as opposed to the trend for Rubio today - that makes Bush the establishment leader
 
It may just be that some like to hear to voice of experience vs new ideas? Both Kasich and JB made up ground. Of course nothing is decided yet.
 
And he finished 1 point ahead of Rubio. I like Bush, but I don't know that he should be taking victory laps because he beat Rubio by 1 point, which translates to 1389 votes. What's the message for SC and Super Tuesday? Vote for me! I beat Marco by 1389 votes!

What ever his "message" is will be heard 1000 times more than Rubio's. Bush has the money to do it. You better like Jeb or you're not a good Republican. That is the message I hear.
 
I think she intends to stay in, if for no other reason than to have a public forum available to remind everyone, in her opinion, of Hillary's record of public service gained only by riding on Bill's coat-tails over the years. Fiorina has not been shy about being a woman who has fought against men who would have preferred that she STHU and remain in a secondary position, and just let men run things.

Good afternoon Lady P - get ready for a blast of winter coming our way in a couple of days - not much snow, but wicked cold.

As for your prediction, I agree that Fiorina will stay in, and frankly the way she attacks Trump and Clinton it's good for all the other candidates - she's also, I think, lobbying for a VP slot, which I don't think she'll get.
 
Good afternoon TB - I agree that nothing is settled as of last night's results, but the dynamics have definitely changed and Rubio who went into the weekend as the rising star comes out of last night as damaged - there's no other way to look at it. And Bush coming out ahead of Rubio is huge going into SC because the momentum is in his favour and he's neck and neck with Rubio there prior to last night.

The race is still fluid, but you have to like the trend for Bush as opposed to the trend for Rubio today - that makes Bush the establishment leader

That's correct and all those naysayers that said Bush didn't have a chance will need to change their tunes. What could go wrong with another Bush in the Whitehouse? They have all been such winners, they should just change the GOP's name to TBP. The Bush Party. There's plenty of candidates
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right here.....Why do we need to look anywhere else?
 
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