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Is Bernie Sanders a coward?

Is Bernie Sanders a coward?


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Just for clarity, he did not apply for CO status because the war was wrong, but because he felt all war was wrong.
Whoa!

Sorry to hit you with two quotes in a row, but I was not aware of this.

Where did you get this from? I did not see it stated in the article.

I did see this:

"After the terrorist attacks on 9/11, Sanders did vote in favor of a military response in Afghanistan. But Sanders said the use of force, in his opinion, is not only permissible in response to an attack.

"I believe that the United States should have the strongest military in the world. We should be working with other countries in coalition. And when people threaten the United States or threaten our allies, or commit genocide, the United States, with other countries, should be prepared to act militarily," he continued."


But if your statement is true, he'd have to have changed that position today, in order to fully serve as the commander-in-chief. Being (or at the very least 'appearing') willing to push the metaphorical red button is a prerequisite to military leadership, IMO.
 
there are some necessary wars, such as WWII, which might have been prevented by avoiding WWI. i trust him to do everything he can to prevent WWI.
I do very much agree with you, in that if Bernie sent our boys into battle it would only be for damn good reason, when all other avenues have been expired.

He would be the 'anti-Cheney, and I'm fine with that.

After examining the article more closely, I see he voted for military force in Afghanistan and stated that America will stand militarily to defend itself and it's enemies. I think that's an appropriate tact, and a fine departure from Bush-Cheney.

I can now vote for him with clear conscience in these matters.
 
I think he honestly objected to fighting his socialist comrades in Vietnam. Which is a bigger disqualifying point then being a coward would be.

Seriously? I would think that would be a feather in his hat.

Let me guess. You didn't object, and still do not object, to the war in Viet Nam? I suppose you think that Iraq was a just and beneficial war too?

Please explain.
 
there are some necessary wars, such as WWII, which might have been prevented by avoiding WWI. i trust him to do everything he can to prevent WWI.

His record since has shown he does think that military action can be required, so that is probably a valid point.
 
Whoa!

Sorry to hit you with two quotes in a row, but I was not aware of this.

Where did you get this from? I did not see it stated in the article.

I did see this:

"After the terrorist attacks on 9/11, Sanders did vote in favor of a military response in Afghanistan. But Sanders said the use of force, in his opinion, is not only permissible in response to an attack.

"I believe that the United States should have the strongest military in the world. We should be working with other countries in coalition. And when people threaten the United States or threaten our allies, or commit genocide, the United States, with other countries, should be prepared to act militarily," he continued."


But if your statement is true, he'd have to have changed that position today, in order to fully serve as the commander-in-chief. Being (or at the very least 'appearing') willing to push the metaphorical red button is a prerequisite to military leadership, IMO.

Second paragraph of the OP source:

"As a college student in the 1960s he was a pacifist," Michael Briggs, campaign spokesman added in an email. "[He] isn't now."
 
That four on the forum feel that Mr Sanders was/is a coward , due to being a CO , disturbing ... no kind words ..When a child , I too, "thought" like this .. A CO is the very lest of cowards ..
 
Second paragraph of the OP source:
Fair enough.

It seems he changed, then.

I'm not sure I would assert the general definition of 'pacifist' absolutely negates supporting war under every circumstance (for instance: self-defense), but it's good enough I suppose.
 
I do not care what he did 40 years ago.

I say he is a coward TODAY because in every debate I have seen him in, he lets Hillary talk over him all the time.

He also does not take advantage of some openings Hillary gives him.

He is way too passive in the debates, and let's Hillary dominate him. Maybe that is his kink.
Perchance, he is attempting to be a gentleman .. a rarity today ...We do NOT need another Chris "Motor-mouth " Matthews ..Most of these TV "poli-tainers" are rude, uncivil .
 
I think he honestly objected to fighting his socialist comrades in Vietnam. Which is a bigger disqualifying point then being a coward would be.
That communism and socialism are two different things , never to be learned by any conservative ..fear and ignorance interfere with the learning process..
 
Perchance, he is attempting to be a gentleman .. a rarity today ...We do NOT need another Chris "Motor-mouth " Matthews ..Most of these TV "poli-tainers" are rude, uncivil .

I think it's a strategy. Yeah, Hillary interrupts, goes in to bitch mode and Trumps Bernie at every turn. But I ask. Does this help her or hurt her? It turns me off when she goes in to bitch-mode. I imagine that it's turns off others as well. Maybe Bernie is just giving her the rope she needs to hang herself. When her voice gets loud, and that bitchy tone comes out, I pity Bill.
 
Stupid conservative logic. Refusing to kill and possibly die for a cause you don't believe in is not cowardice.
 
Seriously? I would think that would be a feather in his hat.

Let me guess. You didn't object, and still do not object, to the war in Viet Nam? I suppose you think that Iraq was a just and beneficial war too?

Please explain.

The war in Vietnam was pretty unequivocally just. It was fought to protect the legitimate South Vietnamese government from socialist aggression.

I'm not obliged to defend propositions you've made up for me.

That communism and socialism are two different things , never to be learned by any conservative ..fear and ignorance interfere with the learning process..

Leftism interferes with the critical thinking process.
 
Bernie Sanders Applied for 'Conscientious Objector' Status During Vietnam, Campaign Confirms - ABC News

Isn't a conscientious objector just another way to say you are a coward?

How can this man be fit to be the commander in chief?
Hard to believe, I know, but some people actually do conscientiously object to wars and fighting. And yes, some abuse the system because they are cowards, but having objected does not automatically equal being a coward.

In Sanders' case, he was probably sincere.

How do people like that get elected? People vote them in as the best overall candidate available at the moment.
 
No. Refusing to kill people for an unjust cause is the only ethical choice, actually.

We could really stand to have more people like that in the government. Maybe we'd have fewer callous and needless wars and less senseless loss of both American and foreign lives.

This.
 
No. Refusing to kill people for an unjust cause is the only ethical choice, actually.

We could really stand to have more people like that in the government. Maybe we'd have fewer callous and needless wars and less senseless loss of both American and foreign lives.

Is this directed at Barack Obama?
 
Yes, I believe Bernie is a coward. Not necessarily for dodging the draft, but over his policies and pacifism. He's naive, liberals like him who fear war or think diplomacy is the answer behind stopping international evils display cowardice. I think his economic policies are also pretty cowardly. I've yet to hear him address anything relating to work ethic, just a weak pity party of blame the rich and that everyone deserves free things at the expense of others. He's naive, ignorant, and the root of some of his positions in my opinion is a sense of cowardice and intellectual weakness not grounded in reality.
 
Just for clarity, he did not apply for CO status because the war was wrong, but because he felt all war was wrong.

Good thing he wasn't commander-in-chief on December 8, 1941.
 
No but how can he then potentially send others to war? What happens if soldiers decide that it's an unjust war and ignore President Sanders orders? They go to prison....

Well, the fact is that Sanders is the candidate least likely to be seeing the making of war as the solution to any given situation. A president Rubio, Cruz or Trump will have the West embroiled in endless pointless military engagements from day one. Good for business for their MIC mates and disastrous for military personnel and ordinary citizens the world over. World peace needs Bernie.
 
No - your accusation makes you a coward.

;):peace

Bernie refusing to serve his country, analogous to a father who refuses to pay child support or a citizen that refuses to pay taxes.

Cowardly and quite frankly scary. Bernie Sanders's foreign policy would be disastrous to say the least.
 
Bernie refusing to serve his country, analogous to a father who refuses to pay child support or a citizen that refuses to pay taxes.

Cowardly and quite frankly scary. Bernie Sanders's foreign policy would be disastrous to say the least.

People don't think outside the box.

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Isn't a conscientious objector just another way to say you are a coward?

Considering that Alvin York was both a conscientious objector and one of the most decorated soldiers in U.S. history, I have a hard time swallowing that statement.

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