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Is it immoral to watch football?

Is it immoral to watch football?

  • Yes it's immoral and nobody should watch it.

    Votes: 3 5.7%

  • Yes it's immoral but I watch it anyway.

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • No, nothing immoral about.

    Votes: 48 90.6%

  • I don't know/ other.

    Votes: 2 3.8%
  • Total voters
    53
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Is it immoral to watch the Super Bowl?: Column

Granted that specifies the Super Bowl only, however it's clear the author means football as a whole. I've been watching some on the left trying to dismantle football for awhile now and I'm puzzled by it. The author seems to think of grown men, most college educated, as hapless, helpless victims. For myself, I they're near super human. Only a tiny percentage of men will ever be good enough to be pro and I think there will always be stiff competition for those roster spots, much to the chagrin of the author who seems to hope that football fades away over time because he doesn't like it. Anyway, attempted guilt trip aside, I think there's nothing wrong with enjoying football. What do you think?

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Isn't boxing/UFC worse?
 
X Factor said:
Inspired by this.

Is it immoral to watch the Super Bowl?: Column

Granted that specifies the Super Bowl only, however it's clear the author means football as a whole. I've been watching some on the left trying to dismantle football for awhile now and I'm puzzled by it. The author seems to think of grown men, most college educated, as hapless, helpless victims. For myself, I they're near super human. Only a tiny percentage of men will ever be good enough to be pro and I think there will always be stiff competition for those roster spots, much to the chagrin of the author who seems to hope that football fades away over time because he doesn't like it. Anyway, attempted guilt trip aside, I think there's nothing wrong with enjoying football. What do you think?

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there is nothing wrong with enjoying football.

there is nothing wrong with hating football.

it's not just "some on the left" who have an issue with football these days. concerns over the increasing violence of the game are valid. players are bigger, faster, and stronger than they have ever been before and the hits are causing more serious injuries. you have kids devoting their childhoods to chasing a dream they have almost no chance of fulfilling who then end up ruining or significantly altering their lives because of head trauma, joint problems, or whatever.

that said: is it immoral to watch the super bowl? **** no. the super bowl, and football, are both awesome. it's good to take an honest look at the things we love though, rather than looking at them through rose-tinted glasses (or whatever the expression is).
 
X Factor said:
Inspired by this.

Is it immoral to watch the Super Bowl?: Column

Granted that specifies the Super Bowl only, however it's clear the author means football as a whole. I've been watching some on the left trying to dismantle football for awhile now and I'm puzzled by it. The author seems to think of grown men, most college educated, as hapless, helpless victims. For myself, I they're near super human. Only a tiny percentage of men will ever be good enough to be pro and I think there will always be stiff competition for those roster spots, much to the chagrin of the author who seems to hope that football fades away over time because he doesn't like it. Anyway, attempted guilt trip aside, I think there's nothing wrong with enjoying football. What do you think?

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I've never seen anyone on the left (worth taking seriously anyway) argue in favor of dismantling football.

With that said, there's nothing immoral about football. Big time Green Bay fan.
 
Bucky said:
Isn't boxing/UFC worse?
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Boxing arguably is or is, at least, comparable. UFC/MMA, while it looks more brutal is actually likely "safer" (relatively speaking).
 
It is immoral to watch non SEC football.
 
Liberals and Republicans send kids off to cherry picked wars with little regard to the loss of life, and then they worry about football. Typical hypocrisy from both sides of the aisle.

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RetiredUSN said:
Liberals and Republicans send kids off to cherry picked wars with little regard to the loss of life, and then they worry about football. Typical hypocrisy from both sides of the aisle.
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huh? we aren't allowed to discuss domestic issues affecting our culture because we're in a couple of wars?
 
X Factor said:
Inspired by this.

Is it immoral to watch the Super Bowl?: Column

Granted that specifies the Super Bowl only, however it's clear the author means football as a whole. I've been watching some on the left trying to dismantle football for awhile now and I'm puzzled by it. The author seems to think of grown men, most college educated, as hapless, helpless victims. For myself, I they're near super human. Only a tiny percentage of men will ever be good enough to be pro and I think there will always be stiff competition for those roster spots, much to the chagrin of the author who seems to hope that football fades away over time because he doesn't like it. Anyway, attempted guilt trip aside, I think there's nothing wrong with enjoying football. What do you think?

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I think you're misrepresenting this. The goal has been for the neurological affects of persistent brain impact, like seen in football, to be more studied so people can make more informed choices about participating.

And NFL players themselves have been a major part of this push. Sadly enough, one even pleaded with the NFL to study his brain in his suicide note.

It is not the "left" that first brought this to light. It was neurologically disabled football players.

I am a firm believer that you can do whatever you want to your body.

But in order for people to make truly free choices about what to do with themselves, they have to be informed of what a given choice actually means. There is no true consent without knowledge.
 
No, but it is boring as watching grass grow.
 
SmokeAndMirrors said:
I think you're misrepresenting this. The goal has been for the neurological affects of persistent brain impact, like seen in football, to be more studied so people can make more informed choices about participating.

And NFL players themselves have been a major part of this push. Sadly enough, one even pleaded with the NFL to study his brain in his suicide note.

It is not the "left" that first brought this to light. It was neurologically disabled football players.

I am a firm believer that you can do whatever you want to your body.

But in order for people to make truly free choices about what to do with themselves, they have to be informed of what a given choice actually means. There is no true consent without knowledge.
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I think this knowledge is good to have and has helped in the past with rule changes on styles of tackling, protective gear, conditioning, etc. It's a rough sport.

That said, with all the knowledge available and these men still choose to play, that's there right and I can't see too many people of any political spectrum arguing that we should ban grown men from making grown decisions.
 
X Factor said:
Inspired by this.

Is it immoral to watch the Super Bowl?: Column

Granted that specifies the Super Bowl only, however it's clear the author means football as a whole. I've been watching some on the left trying to dismantle football for awhile now and I'm puzzled by it. The author seems to think of grown men, most college educated, as hapless, helpless victims. For myself, I they're near super human. Only a tiny percentage of men will ever be good enough to be pro and I think there will always be stiff competition for those roster spots, much to the chagrin of the author who seems to hope that football fades away over time because he doesn't like it. Anyway, attempted guilt trip aside, I think there's nothing wrong with enjoying football. What do you think?

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Regardless how some may answer I would remind everyone that it is perfectly fine to watch the Dallas Cowboys because they don't play football.
 
Is it immoral to watch football?
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no, but i definitely don't want my future kids playing the game or getting into boxing. research is showing more and more that getting your bell rung isn't something that you can just walk off.
 
X Factor said:
Inspired by this.

Is it immoral to watch the Super Bowl?: Column

Granted that specifies the Super Bowl only, however it's clear the author means football as a whole. I've been watching some on the left trying to dismantle football for awhile now and I'm puzzled by it. The author seems to think of grown men, most college educated, as hapless, helpless victims. For myself, I they're near super human. Only a tiny percentage of men will ever be good enough to be pro and I think there will always be stiff competition for those roster spots, much to the chagrin of the author who seems to hope that football fades away over time because he doesn't like it. Anyway, attempted guilt trip aside, I think there's nothing wrong with enjoying football. What do you think?

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Well to be fair many of the college graduates got help passing courses, writing papers, and IIRC about half who play in the NFL even have a degree. 78% either file bankruptcy, divorce, or are unemployed after the average 3 year career. They were groomed since high school to be super human (and above most laws and morality) to end up broke and alone in many cases- if successful with brain injury that gravely effects the last years of your life...

I'd say the system creates far more failures than superstars, leaves the super humans with scrambled brains and suicidal in some extreme cases.

If there is any immorality to this I'd say the bulk of that lies someplace other than TV viewers... hell people watch the bachelor- that seems far more immoral... ;)
 
Only if you are a Cowboy fan.
 
akrunner88 said:
I think this knowledge is good to have and has helped in the past with rule changes on styles of tackling, protective gear, conditioning, etc. It's a rough sport.

That said, with all the knowledge available and these men still choose to play, that's there right and I can't see too many people of any political spectrum arguing that we should ban grown men from making grown decisions.
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I certainly don't. However, I find it irresponsible for the establishment to try to hide the facts from people who are trying to make that decision.

I have no doubt plenty will still decide to participate regardless of the risks. But they deserve to make that decision with the best information that we can provide them.
 
SmokeAndMirrors said:
I think you're misrepresenting this. The goal has been for the neurological affects of persistent brain impact, like seen in football, to be more studied so people can make more informed choices about participating.

And NFL players themselves have been a major part of this push. Sadly enough, one even pleaded with the NFL to study his brain in his suicide note.

It is not the "left" that first brought this to light. It was neurologically disabled football players.

I am a firm believer that you can do whatever you want to your body.

But in order for people to make truly free choices about what to do with themselves, they have to be informed of what a given choice actually means. There is no true consent without knowledge.
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It would be wise to remember that before our governments send kids off to war. Some retired NFL players pissed away their money on drugs and hookers and are using the concussion claims as a cash cow. Some are legit. Brain damaged veterans get nothing but a paltry check that they can't pay bills with.
 
X Factor said:
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I've felt like this way about boxing---which I love--- for awhile.
Something unsettling about watching young men beat each others brains out in both sports.
I think the lords of football need to, somehow, slow the game down.
These huge, really fast players impacting each other is the problem.
Serious PED enforcement would help, spongier playing surfaces might slow them down, too.
 
X Factor said:
Inspired by this.

Is it immoral to watch the Super Bowl?: Column

Granted that specifies the Super Bowl only, however it's clear the author means football as a whole. I've been watching some on the left trying to dismantle football for awhile now and I'm puzzled by it. The author seems to think of grown men, most college educated, as hapless, helpless victims. For myself, I they're near super human. Only a tiny percentage of men will ever be good enough to be pro and I think there will always be stiff competition for those roster spots, much to the chagrin of the author who seems to hope that football fades away over time because he doesn't like it. Anyway, attempted guilt trip aside, I think there's nothing wrong with enjoying football. What do you think?

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Someone is trying to justify their small penis and 90-lb frame.
 
RetiredUSN said:
It would be wise to remember that before our governments send kids off to war. Some retired NFL players pissed away their money on drugs and hookers and are using the concussion claims as a cash cow. Some are legit. Brain damaged veterans get nothing but a paltry check that they can't pay bills with.
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what the **** do wars and veterans have to do with this? seriously. where is this coming from?
 
Risky Thicket said:
Regardless how some may answer I would remind everyone that it is perfectly fine to watch the Dallas Cowboys because they don't play football.
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:lamo I don't know how this hasn't already broken the "like" bar :D
 
RetiredUSN said:
It would be wise to remember that before our governments send kids off to war. Some retired NFL players pissed away their money on drugs and hookers and are using the concussion claims as a cash cow. Some are legit. Brain damaged veterans get nothing but a paltry check that they can't pay bills with.
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There is definitely plenty of evidence that repeatedly subclinical brain injury can cause long-lasting damage, and many NFL players are subjected to that.

Regarding vets, I have nothing but the most extremely harsh words for the complete ethical failure of the VA to care for vets. But that's another topic.
 
Football is great. As long as great players play I will watch it and calling it immoral is almost literally retarded...
 
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