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Is this alright with you?

Is this okay at a Presidential campaign rally?

  • Yes, it's fine

    Votes: 25 61.0%

  • No, it's gotten out of hand

    Votes: 16 39.0%
  • Total voters
    41
sangha said:
how glad are you that you had to go back 70 years to find an example of the US "fighting for freedom"?
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Well, I suppose he could have cited Korea, which was only 65 years ago. Bit since that conflict is still on hold I guess it doesn't really count yet. ;)
 
sangha said:
how glad are you that you had to go back 70 years to find an example of the US "fighting for freedom"?
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Thrilled! Are you kidding me, WW2?!! You aren't kidding are you, you're ashamed of that as well, aren't you?

Quick question though, do you believe the U.S. turned Iraq from a tyranny into a democracy, or vice versa?
 
Where the **** is Homer Simpson when our nation needs him the most.

Our potential presidential candidates are "for the most part" a sham and disgrace. The American people don't have a "choose the lesser of two evils" choice in this presidential run. It's a lose, lose situation. This had to happen because of voter apathy over generations of people who don't understand what's at stake for themselves and our entire nation.

We snoozed and now we lose...no matter who wins the election.
 
Removable Mind said:
Where the **** is Homer Simpson when our nation needs him the most.

Our potential presidential candidates are "for the most part" a sham and disgrace. The American people don't have a "choose the lesser of two evils" choice in this presidential run. It's a lose, lose situation. This had to happen because of voter apathy over generations of people who don't understand what's at stake for themselves and our entire nation.

We snoozed and now we lose...no matter who wins the election.
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Granted. However, it must be said that voter apathy is rooted in experience with politicians who promise the world to get elected, then deliver nothing.
 
Captain Adverse said:
Granted. However, it must be said that voter apathy is rooted in experience with politicians who promise the world to get elected, then deliver nothing.
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I guess we're a nation of suckers, one born every minute. And uhmmmm, not to mention ignorant people who have bought into what is clearly not deliverable. A minor education in government should reveal such to all of our citizens. I'm not even sure that civics is taught anymore "in most states".

BTW, our government looovvvesss ignorant people.

Well, here...read more:

Civics Education Testing Only Required In 9 States For High School Graduation

Civics Education Testing Only Required In 9 States For High School Graduation: CIRCLE Study
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Need I add anything else to this exchange?
 
Removable Mind said:
I guess we're a nation of suckers, one born every minute. And uhmmmm, not to mention ignorant people who have bought into what is clearly not deliverable. A minor education in government should reveal such to all of our citizens. I'm not even sure that civics is taught anymore "in most states".

BTW, our government looovvvesss ignorant people.

Well, here...read more:



Need I add anything else to this exchange?
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Not to me. I took civics when I was in High School...back when it was required for graduation.

I've always believed it should have been kept as an ongoing requirement.
 
JC Callender said:
Yeah, we could've just left it to you guys in Spain to take care of those pesky Nazi's.
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JC Callender said:
Well, add Communism and Terrorism to the list of things Spain could easily take care of if it weren't for our hapless meddling.

Btw, glad you forgot WW2 already, a war that will be talked about in history classes 1,000 years from now.
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Idk why you keep rambling about Spain, do you have any idea what's being discussed in this thread ?
 
JC Callender said:
Thrilled! Are you kidding me, WW2?!! You aren't kidding are you, you're ashamed of that as well, aren't you?

Quick question though, do you believe the U.S. turned Iraq from a tyranny into a democracy, or vice versa?
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Neither, why are you giving such one dimensional options ...?
 
Captain Adverse said:
Who?

Are they Canadian politicians?

Why would anyone from a nation outside Canada "cringe" because of the antics of your politicians? :confused:
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The guy I was replying to is Canadian.
 
Heinrich said:
Spain was neutral in the Second World War.
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With the Nazi loving Vichy French on Spain's northern border giving them a buffer and given the fact that Italy and Germany helped Franco win the Spanish Civil War, and British military forces on Gibraltar, Spain didn't have much to worry about so staying "neutral" along with Portugal allowed them to maintain trade, keep their ports open to everyone including Germany's submarine fleet transiting from the Atlantic to the Med, and not have to actually take a stand while the whole time making money as well as recovering from and paying off debts from the civil war.

Yup, Spain was a "good guy" during WWII.
 
I don't really see how it's a problem.
 
Grand Mal said:
I wouldn't have. It's crass and cringe-worthy. Imagine if Harper or Trudeau had pulled a stunt like that.
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Please realize that it was intended in its present context only. Canadian candidates don't have 1,000 flags flying all the time and the only time we really EVER want to hear the national anthem is at hockey games.
 
JC Callender said:
Thrilled! Are you kidding me, WW2?!! You aren't kidding are you, you're ashamed of that as well, aren't you?
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You really are working hard to distract attention away from the fact that it's been 7 decades since we fought for anyone's freedom
Quick question though, do you believe the U.S. turned Iraq from a tyranny into a democracy, or vice versa?
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You want me to answer your question right after you dodged mine? :lamo

how glad are you that you had to go back 70 years to find an example of the US "fighting for freedom"?
 
Nilly said:
Well done. You've summed up exactly what's wrong with it.
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It is entertainment. Every campaign uses some kind of pep motivation. I guess you are against that. Not serious enough?

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They have been hiding Hillary for months now.
 
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Beaudreaux said:
With the Nazi loving Vichy French on Spain's northern border giving them a buffer and given the fact that Italy and Germany helped Franco win the Spanish Civil War, and British military forces on Gibraltar, Spain didn't have much to worry about so staying "neutral" along with Portugal allowed them to maintain trade, keep their ports open to everyone including Germany's submarine fleet transiting from the Atlantic to the Med, and not have to actually take a stand while the whole time making money as well as recovering from and paying off debts from the civil war.

Yup, Spain was a "good guy" during WWII.
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Spain did become a safe haven for Jews fleeing western zones of occupation.

Irony since the Spanish Inquisition chased so many out of Spain.
 
Heinrich said:
These little girls really do not want to be raped by a Mexican and they despise Muslims too, I bet.
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Now that is a really stupid and ignorant remark. Do you not like children?
 
sangha said:
You really are working hard to distract attention away from the fact that it's been 7 decades since we fought for anyone's freedom


You want me to answer your question right after you dodged mine? :lamo

how glad are you that you had to go back 70 years to find an example of the US "fighting for freedom"?
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Iraq. Today.

Dictatorship or parliamentary republic?
 
Fledermaus said:
Iraq. Today.

Dictatorship or parliamentary republic?
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You want me to answer your question right after you dodged mine?

how glad are you that you had to go back 70 years to find an example of the US "fighting for freedom"?
 
JC Callender said:
Sure, you guys had WW2 easily handled before we entered with our money, supplies, and troops. We were just glory hounds showing up for the photo op. :thumbs:

The Communists would've stopped sooner as well if it weren't for the U.S.. We just kept getting in the way, like a puppy nipping at an elephant.

And ISIS, I mean, what can you say, the Middle East was in great shape before we got involved. If Saddam wasn't keeping everyone in the Middle East in check, Canada was and the U.S. was just getting in everyone's way. I'll bet we deserved 9/11 huh?
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The Middle East was far more stable with Saddam Hussein in place. He wouldn't have tolerated Al Qaida or ISIS, he'd have hunted them down and killed them, badly. Overthrowing secular dictators isn't always a good policy. Saddam sealed his own doom, however, when he began to accept Euros for oil, when it was OPEC policy to only accept US dollars.
Viet Nam is better off now. Can't say the war there did anything positive, though, but the Vietnamese have their own country for the first time in generations and they're doing pretty good with it.
 
Fledermaus said:
Iraq. Today.

Dictatorship or parliamentary republic?
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What was that middle thing again? Oh yeah- I'll take teetering, chaotic, temporarily secular state.
 
JC Callender said:
Yeah, we could've just left it to you guys in Spain to take care of those pesky Nazi's.
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Guess again. America helped big time. But the Soviets had the Nazis on the run LONG before D-day (June 6, 1944) and long before the Allied bombing campaign started to become truly effective. By the time of Overlord, Nazi Germany's fate had been long sealed...the invasion just sped things up.

America defeated the Japanese pretty much by themselves in WW2. But the Nazis were VERY much a joint effort with the Soviet Union doing by FAR most of the grunt work (roughly 20 million killed).

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eastern_Front_(World_War_II)


If you disagree...you are wrong as these are facts.


Also, what an INCREDIBLY dinosaur-like response you give. So the guy is from Spain and you use a 60+ year old war against him? Jeeeeez.
 
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Grand Mal said:
The Middle East was far more stable with Saddam Hussein in place. He wouldn't have tolerated Al Qaida or ISIS, he'd have hunted them down and killed them, badly. Overthrowing secular dictators isn't always a good policy. Saddam sealed his own doom, however, when he began to accept Euros for oil, when it was OPEC policy to only accept US dollars.
Viet Nam is better off now. Can't say the war there did anything positive, though, but the Vietnamese have their own country for the first time in generations and they're doing pretty good with it.
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Gassing thousands of your own citizens does wonders for ensuring obedience, huh?
 
Nilly said:
It's 'ok' in that sure, he can do it if he wants.

In my opinion its a damning indictment of what the US political process has become.
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bingo, yes I am down with that...this exemplifies average mentality perfectly, never did I think that little shouted slogans would appeal to the masses but, here we go folks buckle up

Trump knows stupid because he is smart and he squeezing it for all it's worth

"four legs good, two legs bad" fast becomes, "two legs good, four legs bad" to the average individual

President Trump...I'm telling you, it's gonna happen

and down we go!
 
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