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Is Donald Trump a right-wing extremist?

Is Donald Trump a right-wing extremist?

  • Yes

    Votes: 16 35.6%

  • No

    Votes: 29 64.4%
  • Total voters
    45
The Mark said:
I'm not sure.

He's either a right-wing politician type who doesn't care about PC, and may be racist and an idiot to top it off....


Or he's being an ass to get attention, possibly for votes but also possibly just because he's an attention whore...


Hell maybe it's both, somehow...
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It's the latter. He is playing a smart game and knows exactly what he is doing. He knows that his rhetoric is riling certain people up, including minority groups like blacks and conservative dems (which DO exist). People are fearful of terrorism, they are fearful of Mexican immigration, they are fearful of our future. And the rhetoric he is using is connecting to people on a level other politicians are unwilling to go, yet he is able to get away with it because of his celebrity status and the fact that most American's are down with the idea of a "straight-shooter" in office who speaks what he wants. I totally get it, though I disagree with him.

Add to the fact that because he is a celebrity, combined with his willingness to literally say any stupid thing that comes to his mind on any outlet, he is getting unlimited free media exposure, spreading his message much more effectively than any establishment politician could ever hope to.

I truly feel that Trump's legacy after this election, win or lose will be that he changed the game in terms of how politics work. His model will have many attempts at emulation going forth. Ultimately I think that's bad for US politics but it is what it is. I'm still impressed with him.

But lets get real for a second. Trump is no right winger. Dude has a long history, even up until recently of supporting positions on a myriad of issues including social and economic that lean moderate-to-left. And for that reason, I am able to look past his ugly rhetoric and tolerate him over candidates like Cruz, who I despise. He still won't get my vote.
 
akrunner88 said:
It's the latter. He is playing a smart game and knows exactly what he is doing. He knows that his rhetoric is riling certain people up, including minority groups like blacks and conservative dems (which DO exist). People are fearful of terrorism, they are fearful of Mexican immigration, they are fearful of our future. And the rhetoric he is using is connecting to people on a level other politicians are unwilling to go, yet he is able to get away with it because of his celebrity status and the fact that most American's are down with the idea of a "straight-shooter" in office who speaks what he wants. I totally get it, though I disagree with him.

Add to the fact that because he is a celebrity, combined with his willingness to literally say any stupid thing that comes to his mind on any outlet, he is getting unlimited free media exposure, spreading his message much more effectively than any establishment politician could ever hope to.

I truly feel that Trump's legacy after this election, win or lose will be that he changed the game in terms of how politics work. His model will have many attempts at emulation going forth. Ultimately I think that's bad for US politics but it is what it is. I'm still impressed with him.

But lets get real for a second. Trump is no right winger. Dude has a long history, even up until recently of supporting positions on a myriad of issues including social and economic that lean moderate-to-left. And for that reason, I am able to look past his ugly rhetoric and tolerate him over candidates like Cruz, who I despise. He still won't get my vote.
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I cannot in any way see myself supporting a candidate for president willing to go to those lengths just to get nominated. It sickens me that people are willing to support him in some of the flat out lies, not to mention frankly horrible things he has said.
 
Donald Trump is basically the Silvio Berlusconi of the United States.
 
Iamjesus said:
Trump is selling himself like a consumer product. His critics don't get it.

He is like Apple, a pro sports team, a car make, A beer brand, etc. Once people choose to support Trump they are rarely going to switch. They identify it as 'our brand'. Attack the NY Mets, iPhone, Ford Trucks, or whatever and it becomes personal. Trump has become 'our guy' for most supporters. It was the same with supporters of Ron Paul. The same with Obama supporters in 2008.

People are not going to go from Trump to Christie, Rubio, Cruz, etc. It's like dropping the Packers to become a Vikings fan. Once you buy into the Trump message you jump in with both feet. Support Christie, Rubio, Bush and you're still looking around...'sort of' committed but not completely.

Trump support won't diminish. Supporters feel invested in him. Attack Trump and you attack the supporter. Rubio, Christie are in a no win situation.
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These are good points. I like to think that I'm not kidding myself, but I feel like I do get it (the "branding") and that is precisely why I watch his supporters with jaw-dropping awe. Awed that so many people can be hoodwinked by what I see as a clearly blustery empty shell who can't even discuss the deeper aspects of issues, let alone have any ideas or proposals. This isn't choosing a team or a favorite soda, this is choosing our leaders. It boggles my brain cells.
 
skq said:
Donald Trump is against democracy, "political correctness", elections and immigrants. Do you think he is a right-wing extremist?
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He is whatever he thinks will get him votes. I am under no impression that what Trump campaigns on is his real view on anything.
 
skq said:
Donald Trump is against democracy, "political correctness", elections and immigrants. Do you think he is a right-wing extremist?
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No, he just uses whatever rhetoric will get him the biggest play, which at this point mimcs right-wing extremism. But I don't think he actually is.
 
cAPSLOCK said:
Only if the majority of the populous are "right wing extremists". Less and less sense being made here.
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We're not talking about the entire population here, since this is all the GOP primary. We're talking about the population of the GOP. And it's quite possible for that population to be right-wing-extremists without the rest of the country following suit.
 
In my opinion, Trump is using the same tactics that Obama and his supporters used when campaigning in the last two elections...except Trump is just spinning stuff instead of outright lying about stuff as Obama and his buddies did.

Liberals, such as Hillary and important Party Democrats, know how effective these tactics are and they are worried.
 
skq said:
Donald Trump is against democracy, "political correctness", elections and immigrants. Do you think he is a right-wing extremist?
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No. He isn't a right winger and I don't think he's an extremist. I just think he's an arrogant ass.
 
SocialDemocrat said:
Donald Trump is against elections? What?

I think the best word to describe Trump's politics is populist. It capitalizes on an anger that's been building up within the Republican Party ever since the Southern strategy brought white working class voters were brought into the GOP tent. He obviously holds very right-wing positions on immigration and minority issues, tax cuts, and the minimum wage, but it's not traditional American conservatism. He supports protectionism because of his fear-mongering about China, doesn't really care about "hot button issues" like abortion and gay marriage, doesn't really even describe himself as conservative or use traditional GOP buzzwords like "small government," and his vague proposal to replace the ACA sounds suspiciously like a universal healthcare system (which he has advocated for in the past).
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Can I borrow this? It is perfect. :)
 
skq said:
I think he said he's against elections. So, he is against tax cuts for wealthy people.
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Actually his tax plan gives massive cuts to billionaires like him by cutting the top rate from 37% to 25%. This time he is he is running as a Republican so massive deficits are in order. His plan would reduce revenues by over $10 Trillion over 10 years. What's another trillion a year added to the debt? Remember "Reagan proved deficits don't matter".
 
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radcen said:
These are good points. I like to think that I'm not kidding myself, but I feel like I do get it (the "branding") and that is precisely why I watch his supporters with jaw-dropping awe. Awed that so many people can be hoodwinked by what I see as a clearly blustery empty shell who can't even discuss the deeper aspects of issues, let alone have any ideas or proposals. This isn't choosing a team or a favorite soda, this is choosing our leaders. It boggles my brain cells.
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it's human nature. Scenario. A hockey game. The puck is sitting near the goal line. Ten thousand relatively intelligent fans look at the slow motion replay. The majority of the defensive side will swear the puck didn't go over the goal line. The majority on the offensive side will swear it did. This applies to Trump and everything else in politics on either side.
 
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