Iriemon

Well I guess that strategy didn't accomplish much.

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Iriemon

I don't deny Hussein committed genocide. I agree he did, as that term is defined to mean "acts committed with intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnical, racial or religious group." Neocons claimed he murdered several hundred thousand, though only a few thousand graves have been found last time I checked.

Prove I've claimed otherwise to show you're not lying yet again.

You're a proven lying warmongering neocon that will do anything to get this country into another bull**** war, so yeah, I do question everything you say, because about 90% of what comes out of you is bull****. That may make me a "Saddam aplogist" to you, consistent with your anti-American trait of accusing anyone who challenges the truthfulness of the constant stream of crap you claim are facts a traitor. Doesn't bother me, but I will continue to expose your lies. Sorry.

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DivineComedy

That could backfire, into the face of the “Ottoman Empire” apologists.

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Yeah, a wall and a border patrol will protect us. {sound of laughter}

DivineComedy

Just curious, did you vote for a lying warmongering Democrat in 1992 when I voted for the Anti-war candidate?

February 17, 1998: “While speaking at the Pentagon on February 17, 1998, President Bill Clinton warned of the ‘reckless acts of outlaw nations and an unholy axis of terrorists, drug traffickers and organized international criminals.’ These ‘predators of the twenty-first century,’ he said ‘will be all the more lethal if we allow them to build arsenals of nuclear, chemical and biological weapons and missiles to deliver them. We simply cannot allow that to happen. There is no more clear example of this threat than Saddam Hussein's Iraq.’“ Bombing of Iraq (December 1998) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
http://www.cnn.com/ALLPOLITICS/1998/.../clinton.iraq/

February 23, 1998: One (“The best proof of this is the Americans' continuing aggression against the Iraqi people…”), Two (“despite the great devastation inflicted on the Iraqi people by the crusader-Zionist alliance…”), Three (“if the Americans' aims behind these wars are religious and economic, the aim is also to serve the Jews' petty state and divert attention from its occupation of Jerusalem and murder of Muslims there. The best proof of this is their eagerness to destroy Iraq…”)! World Islamic Front Statement Urging Jihad Against Jews and Crusaders

DeeJayH

weren't a couple of those graves mass graves????

I deleted the rest because it does not seem to be any different than what you are complaining ToT does
I assume both of you actually believe what one thinks of each other
you think you have proved it
he thinks he has
whats the diff ?
you have more people on your side??

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Trajan Octavian Titus

And I quote:


"Maybe he did that; I don't know." -- Iriemon.

Al-Anfal campaign look it up.

And then there's this:

Tom Grey answers David Crow's request the empirical basis for his statement on the number of dead under Saddam Hussein. "See http://www.gbn.org/ArticleDisplaySer...=2400&msp=1242 Here is an excerpt:":Along with other human rights organizations, The Documental Centre for Human Rights in Iraq has compiled documentation on over 600,000 civilian executions in Iraq. Human Rights Watch reports that in one operation alone, the Anfal, Saddam killed 100,000 Kurdish Iraqis.

You're sounding like a holocaust deniar or minimizer requesting that we produced the dead bodies of the 6 million Jews.

And you'll say anything to defend the enemies of this nation, it may not make you a traitor but it surely makes you wrong .

Iriemon

That's not a denial you stupid ***.

Iriemon

Last I checked they hadn't found more than a few thousand.

Particularly around the time from of late 2003 earlier 2004, when the Bush admin and its neocon allies realized they'd really ****ed up on the WMD thing, they got their propogranda machine cranking to make other justification for the war -- ie show what a monster Hussein was. So the neocon fabrication machine started cranking out stories about eating babies and hundreds of thousands of deaths and rape rooms and all kinds of stuff that made Hussein out to be the devil incarnate. But when you look at the proof of it, it usually leads to unidentified sources.

You remember the rape rooms right? I once asked someone to show me the proof of the rape rooms. Several neocons jumped on me to dare question such a thing, but not one could point to a credible source of evidence for it, much less actual pictures or other documents of such things.

In this vein, here's a story from 2004, Blair claimed 400,000 bodies were found when the number was more like 5,000.

Blair misled world on Iraq mass grave body count - The NewStandard

Now we are up to 600,000, according to TOT. But look at what he sites for authority: The "Documental Centre for Human Rights in Iraq." Sounds impressive, right? Do a google search on it. You'll find about 4 pages of conservative blogs and websites citing it as evidence. Will you find the website of such an organization, much less a source of the 600,000? I didn't. The most I could find is some reference that is is some Iranian government organization.

That's how it works. Take some lame source that will say anything, the neocon propoganda machine cycles it around a few times, next thing you know TOT cites it here and then you are a Saddam sypathizer if you question it.

The neocons just want war against Iran like they did against Iraq, and they don't care what they have to do to do it.

Fool me once....

Iriemon

Wow. "The Documental Centre for Human Rights in Iraq"! That is an impressive sounding organization. I'm sure they must be trustworthy, they are reported in neocon blogs by folks like you!

Why don't you give us the website for this impressive organization so we can see the basis upon which they collected all this data for these figures.

Thanks.

You and the other neocon bastards who lied us into Iraq and now are trying to lie us into war with Iran are the only enemies of this nation.

Trajan Octavian Titus

It sounded like one, why would you say it if not to shed doubt on the Iraqi genocide? Now you're sounding even more like a holocaust deniar trying to spin out of it.