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Is Jeb Bush being weighed down by his brother, George W?

Is Jeb Bush being weighed down by his brother, George W?

  • Yes, George W is the proverbial albatross around Jeb's political neck.

    Votes: 15 38.5%

  • Yes, but he can get past it.

    Votes: 1 2.6%

  • No, Jeb has nothing to offer, anyway.

    Votes: 3 7.7%

  • No, Jeb's poor showings are solely his own.

    Votes: 10 25.6%

  • Other. (Please elaborate)

    Votes: 10 25.6%
  • Total voters
    39
  • Poll closed .
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Is Jeb Bush being weighed down by his brother, George W?

Would Jeb be doing better in his quest for the Presidency if Bush II's legacy weren't so polarizing?
 
I think Jeb's poor performance has been his own doing. I don't think people have done a great job of reminding everyone that he's W's brother (or even HW's son). We also haven't really seen anyone do that to Hilary yet either, tying her to her husband.

I like Jeb. I actually think he's the best of the three. But I'm still not voting for him in the primary.
 
JEB's last name is an improtant factor in why he won't become President. Of course, if not for his name he would have never been considered in the first place.

But mostly he won't win because, frankly, he comes across as a weak and bumbling. I heard he performed a bit better in this last debate, though.
 
In short, yes. Even if I totally agreed with him on everything, which I certainly don't, I still wouldn't vote for him because of who his family is. We have well over 300 million people in this country, you can't tell me that we have to keep re-electing people from the same two asshole families.
 
Other....

Yes, Dubya is an albatross around Jeb's neck. But it's refreshing that the GOP voters FINALLY have come to terms with what an idiot president Dubya was and acknowledge the damage he and his administration did to our nation. Ron Paul tried to tell them years ago. They boo'd him back then, remember? Now, they sound like him.

No, Jeb Bush, on his own, has shown himself to be a terrible candidate. With or without his ****-up of a brother.
 
Jeb won't be able to blame his failure on G. W. no matter how hard he tries to do that.
 
tres borrachos said:
I think Jeb's poor performance has been his own doing. I don't think people have done a great job of reminding everyone that he's W's brother (or even HW's son). We also haven't really seen anyone do that to Hilary yet either, tying her to her husband.

I like Jeb. I actually think he's the best of the three. But I'm still not voting for him in the primary.
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Its partly his own doing...because rather than running as far as possible from his brother's pathetic presidency, he embraced it. That was the dumbest move that Jeb made (and he's supposed to be the smart one?). I don't know if it was him or his advisors...but his quest for the Presidency was doomed from that point on.
 
radcen said:
Is Jeb Bush being weighed down by his brother, George W?

Would Jeb be doing better in his quest for the Presidency if Bush II's legacy weren't so polarizing?
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One thing that Jeb could to is to just insert a "c" into his name. Presto! Instant distancing Jeb Busch, from that other guy with the similar sounding name.
 
radcen said:
Is Jeb Bush being weighed down by his brother, George W?

Would Jeb be doing better in his quest for the Presidency if Bush II's legacy weren't so polarizing?
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Probably. However, when Jeb says that his brother kept us safe, that doesn't communicate to voters that he's any better connected to reality than his brother.
 
disneydude said:
Its partly his own doing...because rather than running as far as possible from his brother's pathetic presidency, he embraced it. That was the dumbest move that Jeb made (and he's supposed to be the smart one?). I don't know if it was him or his advisors...but his quest for the Presidency was doomed from that point on.
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I agree with this as being a dumb move (for being very unpopular, if no other reason), but I don't think it, by itself, is cause for Jeb's poor showing. He was already nowhere prior to publicly proclaiming this.
 
Jeb looks like the little kid on the playground, trying to swing at the bully, while the bully holds him back, at arm's distance, with a stiff-arm to the forehead. He has too good of an upbringing and when it's time to wallow in the mud, it appears that he doesn't want to get his clothes dirty.

That deer in the headlights look. Know what I mean Vern?

Still, I do like Jeb.
 
radcen said:
Is Jeb Bush being weighed down by his brother, George W?

Would Jeb be doing better in his quest for the Presidency if Bush II's legacy weren't so polarizing?
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No. Jeb's problems are because Trump screwed up the whole Republican Elite plan to get him elected.
 
radcen said:
Is Jeb Bush being weighed down by his brother, George W?

Would Jeb be doing better in his quest for the Presidency if Bush II's legacy weren't so polarizing?
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No legacies!
 
Who knows what Jeb's chances might have been if he hadn't had "Daddy" Bush for a father and Idiot "W" Bush for a brother...? As it is, Jeb could walk on water and glow in the dark and still not stand a chance. Why? Because people are sick to death of the "Bush Machine" that only seems to generate disjointed, illogical RINO's....

Truth is that Jeb could actually be the most capable of the Bush's, but by now many of us simply have "Bush fatigue". It's hard to have much of an appetite for something that you've already puked back up -- twice!
 
For a seasoned politician, I have been extraordinarily unimpressed with Jeb Bush. All that hype...but at the end of the day? Vapor.
 
radcen said:
Is Jeb Bush being weighed down by his brother, George W?

Would Jeb be doing better in his quest for the Presidency if Bush II's legacy weren't so polarizing?
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No one with the last name Bush could do well today.
Unfortunately, Jeb is probably a reasonable and competent executive, with more experience than most but the American people seem to want skillful orations and bombast, not experience and rationality.
 
Jeb is garbage. That he's related to two other pieces of garbage don't change that fact.
 
Eric7216 said:
No one with the last name Bush could do well today.
Unfortunately, Jeb is probably a reasonable and competent executive, with more experience than most but the American people seem to want skillful orations and bombast, not experience and rationality.
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i have a problem with that underlined statement. if Bush is a competent executive, why is his presidential campagin so badly managed?
 
Unitedwestand13 said:
i have a problem with that underlined statement. if Bush is a competent executive, why is his presidential campagin so badly managed?
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IMHO, because a successful campaigner lies, over promises, BS's, misleads, and other things which are not done by competent executives. Unfortunately, there are different skill sets involved.
 
BrewerBob said:
JEB's last name is an improtant factor in why he won't become President. Of course, if not for his name he would have never been considered in the first place.

But mostly he won't win because, frankly, he comes across as a weak and bumbling. I heard he performed a bit better in this last debate, though.
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Agree.

If junior hadn't been reelected then I'd see it more as a negative.

There is an irony that the two leading democracies in the Americas, The USA and Canada have recently had sons of leaders as leaders themselves....and next year perhaps the wife of a leader. It's a commentary on society how we all are quick to denounce nepotism but also embrace it. No King but the desire for a king.
 
yeah, GWB is one of his problems. doubt that he would have been the frontrunner either way, though.
 
The name was the biggest factor. A very significant factor has been his lackluster campaign.
 
radcen said:
Is Jeb Bush being weighed down by his brother, George W?

Would Jeb be doing better in his quest for the Presidency if Bush II's legacy weren't so polarizing?
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Yes, I don't think there is any question that W's costly presidency is an albatross for Jeb. However, I also believe that the U.S. has had enough Bush for a long time to come. Finally, Jeb doesn't come across as enthusiastic and engaging. That hurts him. Jeb projects the image of an opportunist.
 
Famous names in politics are a mixed blessing at times. One could argue that GW Bush would never have been Governor of Texas or President without his father's famous last name. Likewise for Jeb in Florida and clearly with Hillary Clinton in New York and now.

On the other side people, many here on DP as an example, use a person's last name against them either because of what passed before them or because they don't want any family connections with leaders. That can be pretty foolish if you refuse to look at the person's individual accomplishments out of a form of prejudice.

As a person who's supported Jeb Bush running for President as far back as 2010, I think he'd be a great President and get a lot of things accomplished because he lacks the overriding ego that gets in the way a lot of times. But, unquestionably, he's had some difficulty in the debates this go round, likely related to the fact he'd been out of politics and out of practice for a long time. Additionally, the circumstances of the race and the media obsession with Trump has made it difficult for Bush and others to get their positions across to the voters.

However, nothing's fair in politics and he'll just have to keep slogging away and hope the time will come when Republican primary voters start looking for serious candidates to lead the nation.
 
CNN interview with him. 5 minutes about his opinion of Trump. Followed by commentary on Bush on Trump ...followed by Trump campaign responding.

No mention of Bush senior or junior.

It's hard to see how Bush can get any traction. Even when he is discussed it's still 'all about Trump'.
 
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