Is Islam a religion of peace?

Simple question, what do you believe?

American said:

Simple question, what do you believe?

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Religion is really whatever people make of it. I won't deny that many verses in the Quran and Hadith are violent and could be logically used to justify atrocities, but if Muslims choose to interpret Islamic texts as promoting peace and tolerance, I say more power to them.

I said no

Is there any religion that is one of peace...no!

No more nor less than any other religion, once historical and cultural forces are taken into effect.

It depends on how one interprets the texts.
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"Islam is Peace" Says President

The face of terror is not the true faith of Islam. That's not what Islam is all about. Islam is peace. These terrorists don't represent peace. They represent evil and war.

When we think of Islam we think of a faith that brings comfort to a billion people around the world. Billions of people find comfort and solace and peace. And that's made brothers and sisters out of every race -- out of every race.

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No religion is peaceful. All justify, and in many cases promote the idea of violence.

Religion was the Devil's greatest creation.

David_N said:

It depends on how one interprets the texts.
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"Islam is Peace" Says President

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President Obama is an idiot... I mean that almost literally.

But as an American I fully support his right to express his opinions.

Bodhisattva said:

President Obama is an idiot... I mean that almost literally.

But as an American I fully support his right to express his opinions.

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THAT WAS GEORGE W BUSH. :lamo

If you really give a damn go to Youtube and type in the search bar

"Hamza Yusuf"

Watch.

Watch a few, take a few hours.

Then make your decision.

David_N said:

:lamo
THAT WAS GEORGE W BUSH. :lamo

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I thought that he was an idiot too... so I am safe.

American said:

Simple question, what do you believe?

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The answer is "No" if all you can think of is religious extremists...but if you look at the great majority of those who follow that religion, the answer would be "yes". And the proof is Indonesia, a third-world nation with 100M more people than America...and with a lower homicide rate than any state in the union. Does it mean that Islam is perfect? Of course not...but until oh-so-"Christian" America, with all our wealth, becomes as peaceful as officially-Muslim Indonesia, we have zero room to call Islam a violent religion.

Glen Contrarian said:

The answer is "No" if all you can think of is religious extremists...but if you look at the great majority of those who follow that religion, the answer would be "yes". And the proof is Indonesia, a third-world nation with 100M more people than America...and with a lower homicide rate than any state in the union. Does it mean that Islam is perfect? Of course not...but until oh-so-"Christian" America, with all our wealth, becomes as peaceful as officially-Muslim Indonesia, we have zero room to call Islam a violent religion.

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Okay, lets look at Indonesia which by most is considered a glowing example of a modern muslim society.

70% of Indonesia's muslims believe in Shariah Law

50% of Indonesia's muslims believe in stoning adulterers and amputating thieves.

And this is the best example of a functional Muslim country.

Glen Contrarian said:

The answer is "No" if all you can think of is religious extremists...but if you look at the great majority of those who follow that religion, the answer would be "yes". And the proof is Indonesia, a third-world nation with 100M more people than America...and with a lower homicide rate than any state in the union. Does it mean that Islam is perfect? Of course not...but until oh-so-"Christian" America, with all our wealth, becomes as peaceful as officially-Muslim Indonesia, we have zero room to call Islam a violent religion.

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Muhammad’s belief in Islam and his own role as the “Messenger of God” revolutionized Arabian warfare and resulted in the creation of the ancient world’s first army motivated by a coherent system of ideological belief. The ideology of holy war (jihad) and martyrdom (shahada) for the faith was transmitted to the West during the wars between Muslims and Christians in Spain and France, where it changed traditional Christian pacifistic thinking on war, brought into being a coterie of Christian warrior saints, and provided the Catholic Church with its ideological justification for the Crusades. Ideology—whether religious or secular—has remained a primary component of military ventures ever since.

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The religion of peace?

Successful insurgencies also require a disciplined cadre of true believers to do the work of organizing and recruiting new members. Muhammad’s revolutionary cadre consisted of the small group of original converts he attracted in Mecca and took with him to Medina. These were the muhajirun, or emigrants. The first converts among the clans of Medina, the ansar, or helpers, also filled the ranks of the cadre. Within this revolutionary cadre was an inner circle of talented men, some of them later converts. Some, like Abdullah Ibn Ubay and Khalid al-Walid, were experienced field commanders and provided a much-needed source of military expertise. Muhammad’s inner circle advised him and saw to it that his directives were carried out. These advisers held key positions during the Prophet’s lifetime and fought among themselves for power after his death.

Once Muhammad had created his cadre of revolutionaries, he established a base from which to conduct military operations against his adversaries.

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Muhammad established the belief among his followers that God had commandeered all Muslims’ purposes and property for His efforts and that all Muslims had a responsibility to fight for the faith. Everyone—men, women, and even children—had an obligation for military service in defense of the faith and the ummah that was the community of God’s chosen people on earth.

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Does this seem peaceful to you?

It is essential to understand that the attraction of the Islamic ideology more than anything else produced the manpower that permitted Muhammad’s small revolutionary cadre to evolve into a conventional armed force capable of large-scale engagements.

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Another tradition that remains today. So Muhammad created ISIS...

Anyone that believes Islam is peaceful is either ignorant, brainwashed, or in denial.

Muhammad: The Warrior Prophet | History Net: Where History Comes Alive – World & US History Online | From the World's Largest History Magazine Publisher

No religion is a religion of peace. They will all go as far as they can get away with.

David_N said:

:lamo
THAT WAS GEORGE W BUSH. :lamo

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They were both idiots. In fact, we've had no end to idiotic presidents recently.

American said:

Simple question, what do you believe?

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According to the text? Not really. But arguably neither is Judaism (my religion), but several millennia of diaspora and political helplessness have neutered the more violent and grasping tendencies of the faith.

There's no way in the world that Islam is a "religion of peace"! Read what their "holy book", the Quran, tells Islam's true-believers to do about "Infidels": The Quran's Verses of Violence . Take a good, long, hard look at this factual information, based and sourced in their Quran, and you'll never believe any of this nonsense and crap about Islam being a "peaceful" religion again....

Bucky said:

Okay, lets look at Indonesia which by most is considered a glowing example of a modern muslim society.

70% of Indonesia's muslims believe in Shariah Law

50% of Indonesia's muslims believe in stoning adulterers and amputating thieves.

And this is the best example of a functional Muslim country.

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And they have a lower homicide rate than even the most peaceful American state.

BTW, I refer to Indonesia because it's a THIRD-world nation, and as such SHOULD have a higher homicide rate than America...but theirs is much, much lower. If you like, I can also refer to FIRST-world Muslim nations, like Saudi Arabia, UAE, Qatar, Bahrain, and Jordan. All their societies are also much more peaceful than America's.

In other words, you might not like their laws...but what was the question? Was the question about "rights"? Or was it "Is Islam a religion of peace"? The numbers simply show that a STABLE Muslim nation is generally (though not always) more peaceful than a stable "Christian" nation.

One last thing - NO, I'm not eager to go live in a Muslim nation, though my wife's cousin and her daughter live in Riyadh, my brother-in-law's fiance is an RN at an ER in Riyadh, and my niece is a stewardess for Qatar Airlines...and they've all said they're happy where they are. I hate the weather (and the lack of green) in the Middle East, and I especially don't want to be arrested for kissing my Darling in public. But is Islam a religion of peace? The numbers from the stable Muslim nations show that it apparently is.

The lesson here is...broaden your mind. That was the biggest lesson I learned in the Navy, that there are many places in the world that ARE at least as happy, at least as prosperous and modern, at least as peaceful, and at least as good to raise a family, as here in America. Broaden your mind. Travel. Live over there, learn the local cultures, and learn that for all our cultural differences, people really are the same all over the world.

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I very rarely watch videos - it's a security thing, and one learns much more slowly from video anyway. I've only watched one on DP so far, and that was only because it involved Monty Python. So you're wasting your time with videos. Send me articles instead.

So...why is it, then, that third-world nation Indonesia, and first-world nations Saudi Arabia, UAE, Qatar, Bahrain, and Singapore ALL have much lower homicide rates than America, if Islam is such a violent religion?

Has it occurred to you that the key is having a STABLE nation? Those nations I listed above are all STABLE, whereas Iraq, Egypt, Syria, and Libya are not. But the numbers show that stable Islamic nations are generally more peaceful than stable "Christian" nations...and this could not be the case if Islam were a "violent" religion as so many on the American Right want us to believe.

Pollycy said:

There's no way in the world that Islam is a "religion of peace"! Read what their "holy book", the Quran, tells Islam's true-believers to do about "Infidels": The Quran's Verses of Violence . Take a good, long, hard look at this factual information, based and sourced in their Quran, and you'll never believe any of this nonsense and crap about Islam being a "peaceful" religion again....

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Read the bible. OT for sure.

American said:

Simple question, what do you believe?

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Depends what you want to catch. When I'm trolling, I use hootchies if it's sockeye running, herring strips for springs or coho.

Μολὼν λαβέ;1065339465 said:

The religion of peace?





Does this seem peaceful to you?



Another tradition that remains today. So Muhammad created ISIS...

Anyone that believes Islam is peaceful is either ignorant, brainwashed, or in denial.

Muhammad: The Warrior Prophet | History Net: Where History Comes Alive – World & US History Online | From the World's Largest History Magazine Publisher

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"By their acts shall ye know them"

So...why is it, then, that third-world nation Indonesia, and first-world nations Saudi Arabia, UAE, Qatar, Bahrain, and Singapore ALL have much lower homicide rates than America, if Islam is such a violent religion?

Has it occurred to you that the key is having a STABLE nation? Those nations I listed above are all STABLE, whereas Iraq, Egypt, Syria, and Libya are not. But the numbers show that stable Islamic nations are generally more peaceful than stable "Christian" nations...and this could not be the case if Islam were a "violent" religion as so many on the American Right want us to believe.

BY THEIR ACTS, those Muslim nations that are STABLE are more peaceful than our own. I've walked the streets of Dubai and Singapore many times, and I felt much safer there than in the downtown areas of any American city I've ever been in, with the possible exception of Honolulu.

But you've decided to - been convinced to - hate them, and fear them. And because of this, you simply cannot conceive that their societies might actually be much safer than our own.

Pollycy said:

There's no way in the world that Islam is a "religion of peace"! Read what their "holy book", the Quran, tells Islam's true-believers to do about "Infidels": The Quran's Verses of Violence . Take a good, long, hard look at this factual information, based and sourced in their Quran, and you'll never believe any of this nonsense and crap about Islam being a "peaceful" religion again....

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If you add up all the numbers, those following what religion (or offshoot of that religion) have killed more people in the Name of God than those following any other religion? Here's a hint: it ain't Islam.

Glen Contrarian said:

"By their acts shall ye know them"

So...why is it, then, that third-world nation Indonesia, and first-world nations Saudi Arabia, UAE, Qatar, Bahrain, and Singapore ALL have much lower homicide rates than America, if Islam is such a violent religion?

Has it occurred to you that the key is having a STABLE nation? Those nations I listed above are all STABLE, whereas Iraq, Egypt, Syria, and Libya are not. But the numbers show that stable Islamic nations are generally more peaceful than stable "Christian" nations...and this could not be the case if Islam were a "violent" religion as so many on the American Right want us to believe.

BY THEIR ACTS, those Muslim nations that are STABLE are more peaceful than our own. I've walked the streets of Dubai and Singapore many times, and I felt much safer there than in the downtown areas of any American city I've ever been in, with the possible exception of Honolulu.

But you've decided to - been convinced to - hate them, and fear them. And because of this, you simply cannot conceive that their societies might actually be much safer than our own.

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Zoologists who study primates cite a series of responses, "See the stranger, fear the stranger, hate the stranger, kill the stranger." It's still a powerful drive, apparently.