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Should Planned Parenthood workers carry guns?

Should Planned Parenthood workers carry guns?

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If they're going to keep on killing people, then they should be using the surgical instruments they currently use, not guns.
 
David_N said:
:lol: :roll:
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As we've seen with many of our rightist posters, concealed carry is fine if you're on the right side of the abortion issue.

These are the same people who blame schools and churches for mass murders if they are gun-free zones.

As a teacher, however, I should tell you I believe in CC in schools and have proven on DP in the past that it does indeed exist .
 
Everyone who is not a convicted criminal and is 18 + years of age should be allowed to carry a firearm. It's called the 2nd amendment which elucidates the concept that all people are allowed to defend themselves.
 
Shadowless said:
The people whom we designate to enforce the law.
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They can't be on the scene immediately. By the time the cops arrive the damage is usually done. So basically what you're advocating is for people to be defenseless in the critical first moments of a crisis.
 
David_N said:
They're regressive, and extremists are only making it worse for them.
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Actually there David, child sacrifice existed in pagan, pre-Christian European and American societies. You see, the definition of 'regressive' is: "becoming less advanced; returning to a former or less developed state."

Child sacrifice for convenience is the same as child sacrifice for religion.
 
DifferentDrummr said:
The gun advocates are always saying "arm the good guys," so let's see what they think of this idea.

And what you think, of course.
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Yeah, they should all carry uzis and they should have cannons in their front yards for thew pesky demonstrations.

So, let's not have any pressure put on right-wing crazy evangelicals who troll society and terrorize "law abiding citizens". Let's just have us a bunch -a shoot outs, that'll solve everything.

Last man standing is right.
 
faithful_servant said:
If they're going to keep on killing people, then they should be using the surgical instruments they currently use, not guns.
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War kills people. Please solve that problem and then get back to us about something that no one can do anything about because it's as old as war.

Gather the minions and solve it please.

We'll all wait.
 
OrphanSlug said:
Ok, but I am asking why.
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At a guess, open (or possibly, concealed) carrying of firearms might cause stress for patients and/or staff.

Stress can kill, and especially if an already damaged/ill person experiences it.

So, needs to be avoided, especially in medical facilities.


That's mainly a guess though, but it makes sense.
 
DifferentDrummr said:
The gun advocates are always saying "arm the good guys," so let's see what they think of this idea.

And what you think, of course.
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Sure, why not. Israelis are facing essentially the same breed of threat, so I think that should serve as an example. However, also like the Israelis, they should prove themselves competent with a firearm, maybe even have military experience (which is again an Israeli requirement).
 
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If we're talking about security staff or whatnot, I'd say sure.

Probably best to avoid having weaponry in the treatment areas and such though. Likely cause stress for patients.
 
Depends on the laws of the state and rules of the employer, period.
 
The Mark said:
At a guess, open (or possibly, concealed) carrying of firearms might cause stress for patients and/or staff.

Stress can kill, and especially if an already damaged/ill person experiences it.

So, needs to be avoided, especially in medical facilities.

That's mainly a guess though, but it makes sense.
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Perception based on location I understand, adherence to the idea of being armed making one able to defend themselves is another matter. What is good in one location is good elsewhere, at least if there is any merit to the idea of gun free zones being targets for those willing to harm many in a short time frame.
 
DifferentDrummr said:
The gun advocates are always saying "arm the good guys," so let's see what they think of this idea.

And what you think, of course.
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gun advocates don't say " arm the good guys"... every single one of us recognizes the right to arm yourself, not have that choice made by others..... telling them they will be armed is not cool... it's just as uncool to tell them they can't have firearms at all.

PP workers aren't special in this regards... they, as with anyone else, should be afforded the choice to arm themselves or not.


personally, I think if a PP workers is interested in seeing to their own defense, and the defense of others around them, they oughta look at effective methods..... such as carrying a firearm.
as they must know, they are targets of certain extremists.... so it makes perfect sense for them to see to their defense
 
MaggieD said:
That's up to their employers. Planned Parenthood property is not an automatic gun-free zone. I'd have no problem with it if their employer didn't.
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I wouldn't have a problem either....and I wouldn't have a problem holding PP legally responsible and accountable for the safety of their workers if they choose to disallow their employees from defending themselves with firearms.

someone has to be responsible for security and defense.. if PP bars their employees from being responsible, they take it upon themselves to bear that responsibility 100%.
 
DifferentDrummr said:
The gun advocates are always saying "arm the good guys," so let's see what they think of this idea.

And what you think, of course.
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Everyone should carry concealed everywhere on this planet.

There are no exceptions.

The only way to stop a bad guy with a gun is by a good guy with a gun.

Doesn't happen all that often but that's the only way to.
 
DifferentDrummr said:
The gun advocates are always saying "arm the good guys," so let's see what they think of this idea.

And what you think, of course.
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Those aren't the good guys. Those are the guys the police should be hunting down, ideally.
 
Does anyone know if any Planned Parenthood (PP) facilities have armed guards on site now? With the possibility of having armed guards available and the restrictions of many employers to not allow employees ta carry on the job, if they wanted armed employees then they would and could encourage that within the law is it is now in this country. However, the lack of corresponding attacks on PP compared to those on campuses or schools, I see a greater need to allow them at places that have much more public access. Because of being government ordered "gun free zones" rather than private enterprises, schools and universities should allow people to carry. Even now the NFL is being asked to allow fans to carry by police organizations and they have many more people visiting those events .
 
PP workers = good guys?
 
ttwtt78640 said:
No, they should honor the opinions of most that support them. The (politically?) correct thing to do is to patently wait for five hours, or so, for government security forces, those that should have military style weapons, to come to their aid. Personal security is a luxury that should be reserved for the rich and powerful, not mere peons that might abuse that state issued privilege. ;)
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Wait a minute bro. The left also complains about the police having those scary lookin' military style weapons. So no, they really shouldn't even be able to call the police for help. I mean, as a logical conclusion to the rest of your post.
 
countryboy said:
Wait a minute bro. The left also complains about the police having those scary lookin' military style weapons. So no, they really shouldn't even be able to call the police for help. I mean, as a logical conclusion to the rest of your post.
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They may complain about it (publicly) but they include it (quietly?) in every gun control bill/law. The last thing that they want is less government power or the disarming of their own private (personal?) security team.
 
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