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Radical Christian Terrorists[W:239]

Is it hypocrisy to label Muslims but not Christians as terrorists when it applies?

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Urethra Franklin said:
Oh here we go. Christians who can't take what they've handed out for centuries :roll:
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Christian "terrorism" began with the Crusades in the 12th Century when Crusaders on their way to Palestine and also once they captured Jerusalem murdered Jews everywhere they could find them. In the mentality of those days it was believed that the Jews were bringing down the curse of Heaven upon the Christians.

Of course once in command of Jerusalem the crusaders murdered Muslims there as well.

Then again in the 14th Century when the Black Plague was blamed on the Jews -- so lots of Jews were again rounded up and murdered.

By the 15th Century crusading had pretty much expired. But then Catholic Spain began its Inquisition and rounding up Jews and if they would not convert to Catholicism murdered or drove them out and took their property.

As the saying goes, when you've got them by the balls their hearts and minds soon follow (Viet Nam Era joke -- sorry).

Europe has ALWAYS been quite anti Semitic with the culmination coming in the early 1940's and Adolf's death camps.

Today, the Muslims are the most anti Semitic and also anti Zionist.

The shoe is on the other foot.

It is now open season by Muslims on Jews and their Catholic/Protestant Christian coconspirators.
 
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Goshin said:
We seem quick to jump to the former conclusion than the latter.

Do we know if he had any religious affiliations at all? Let alone any to anti-abortion groups?

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A profile is forming of Dear being a conservative christian radical anti-choice murdering activist.
 
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Shadowless said:
The death penalty will not solve the problem of fundamentalism. It will take a reverse brainwashing. These people have been brainwashed by religious cults. I replied already, hundreds of thousands of christian supporters were going off on social media. Not all terrorists, but sympathizing with the terrorist is encouraging more.
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The death penalty eliminates the capital criminal. I don't CARE what these people think, who/what they worship, or how they were "radicalized". If they're guilty, I want them removed from society, shot, and then put into a trash compactor. End of story....
 
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joG said:
Oh, I know the definition in Webster. But Webster is not meant as a philosophical or sociological tool and is not very useful in this context. You might want to note also that while Deism requires a God, religion is a term with a wider meaning that includes Deism.
The Definition in Wikipedia is also insufficient and a little inconsisten in certain aspects, but it is a little better: "A religion is an organized collection of beliefs, cultural systems, and world views that relate humanity to an order of existence.[note 1] Many religions have narratives, symbols, and sacred histories that aim to explain the meaning of life, the origin of life, or the Universe. From their beliefs about the cosmos and human nature, people may derive morality, ethics, religious laws, or a preferred lifestyle.

Many religions may have organized behaviors, clergy, a definition of what constitutes adherence or membership, holy places, and scriptures. The practice of a religion may include rituals, sermons, commemoration or veneration (of a deity, gods, or goddesses), sacrifices, festivals, feasts, trances, initiations, funerary services, matrimonial services, meditation, prayer, music, art, dance, public service, or other aspects of human culture. Religions may also contain mythology.[1]

The word religion is sometimes used interchangeably with faith or set of duties;[2] however, in the words of Émile Durkheim, religion differs from private belief in that it is "something eminently social".[3] A global 2012 poll reports 59% of the world's population as "religious" and 23% as not religious, including 13% who are atheists, with a 9% decrease in religious belief from 2005.[4] Another 2015 poll similarly found that 22% of the world population are not religious, including 11% who were atheists.[5] On average, women are "more religious" than men.[6] Some people follow multiple religions or multiple religious principles at the same time, regardless of whether or not the religious principles they follow traditionally allow for syncretism.[7][8][9] ....."
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Well, then it is not a definition that we are talking about, or reality, but your highly personal opinion about what is and is not religion. What is striking to me is that every definition/description that does not comply with your personal opinion is "insufficent/not useful", etc. etc. Maybe you should at least entertain the notion that their description and definitions is correct and your opinion is not.

I do not believe in narratives about gods/superhuman/supernatural things, I do not derive my morality, ethics, etc. etc. etc. based on gods/symbols/narratives/sacred histories because most if not all of these are completely based on beliefs in gods.

I am not part of a religion, pure and simple.
 
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Peter King said:
Well, then it is not a definition that we are talking about, or reality, but your highly personal opinion about what is and is not religion. What is striking to me is that every definition/description that does not comply with your personal opinion is "insufficent/not useful", etc. etc. Maybe you should at least entertain the notion that their description and definitions is correct and your opinion is not.

I do not believe in narratives about gods/superhuman/supernatural things, I do not derive my morality, ethics, etc. etc. etc. based on gods/symbols/narratives/sacred histories because most if not all of these are completely based on beliefs in gods.

I am not part of a religion, pure and simple.
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Not at all my personal. More a sociological description. That a dictionary cannot do complex concepts justice shouldn't surprise anyone, though. That is why there is a hierarchy in the presentation of definitions. The quick and dirty is in the dictionary. If you want more precision, you take an encyclopedia to hand. Should one be really interested, one reads a scientific treatise on the subject. If you do a seminar on it one will not be enough and you will see that Webster, as helpful as his book really and truly is, is limited here and there and in the middle.
 
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joG said:
Not at all my personal. More a sociological description. That a dictionary cannot do complex concepts justice shouldn't surprise anyone, though. That is why there is a hierarchy in the presentation of definitions. The quick and dirty is in the dictionary. If you want more precision, you take an encyclopedia to hand. Should one be really interested, one reads a scientific treatise on the subject. If you do a seminar on it one will not be enough and you will see that Webster, as helpful as his book really and truly is, is limited here and there and in the middle.
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You can opine all you want, but it still does not make atheism a religion.
 
Bodhisattva said:
What is with that? Radical Christian Terrorist guns down a dozen people and the media says that they don't know what his motivation was? Why not the same pass when a Muslim suicide bomber blows up a market? They don't investigate his house to find his motives because they are alreay known... just like this guy. Hypocrisy? I say it is..
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It is quite simple:

We are at war with radical Islam. We know who the enemy is, they have declared war on western civilization. They are credible threat and have already launched devastating attacks against the US and its allies.

We are not at war with radical Christians. Sure radical Christian terrorist exists but none of these groups poise a serious threat to national security.
 
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Peter King said:
You can opine all you want, but it still does not make atheism a religion.
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It certainly makes a better argument than the stand alone statement "it does not make atheism a religion", though.
 
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Shadowless said:
The death penalty will not solve the problem of fundamentalism. It will take a reverse brainwashing. These people have been brainwashed by religious cults. I replied already, hundreds of thousands of christian supporters were going off on social media. Not all terrorists, but sympathizing with the terrorist is encouraging more.
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Right so,

But a death penalty on religious brainwashers on the other hand was a solution to countries such as Albania and Turkiye under Attaturk. Fundamentalism stopped, it only came back with liberty and democracy.
 
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JANFU said:
Great someone like yourself, intolerant of all Religions is pontificating on what a person believes.
You are all over the place in your posts.
The hate is clear.
I do hope you are young enough to learn as you grow older.
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Ad hominem,

It is not up to Shadowless personal beliefs alone whether a Christian Terrorist should be named as such.
 
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Summerwind said:
Well in this time frame it does, but if the Right have their way, it won't be much longer before the Christian nations return to the same fire and brimstone manner of governance.
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It will be quite a long time. The last time blacks were being lynched in the name of Christianity, the National Guard and FBI moved in and stopped it. We still have the National Guard and FBI. Middle Eastern nations don't have the equivalent of that. If it wasn't for the National Guard and the FBI, they would still be lynching black people today in the name of Christianity. Of course, in America today, black people also have a Second Amendment solution for that, if they should ever need it.
 
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