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If you knew a pedophile?

Ehm...'inspired' by another thread, i'm wondering how ya'll would handle a situation where you discovered a friend/neighbor/coworker/family was a pedophile who did NOT to your knowledge harm a kid (yet)

What would you do?

If you expect people to what-if a scenario, you have to give them believable details to work with. The most important detail here being, "How did I come about this knowledge?"

Pedophiles don't wear signs.
 
You guys are awesome. I expected someone to call me a pedophile for admitting that I have been attracted to underage teenage girls. But yes absolutely it would be taking advantage of them if an adult was to have sex with consensual sex with them. I fully agree.

But yeah - people that are attracted to young prepubescent children have some kind of problem. And I cant believe that the attraction is physical - I think that its some kind of sick psychological thing that they are dealing with.

That would be against the rules. There's a lot of things I, personally, don't say to you for that reason.
 
If you expect people to what-if a scenario, you have to give them believable details to work with. The most important detail here being, "How did I come about this knowledge?"

Pedophiles don't wear signs.

Make up a situation yourself that would most appropriately address certain Taboo/issues in the OP...

We all know where he's getting at, just pick a situation where it would be most difficult for you to decide.
 
Ehm...'inspired' by another thread, i'm wondering how ya'll would handle a situation where you discovered a friend/neighbor/coworker/family was a pedophile who did NOT to your knowledge harm a kid (yet)

What would you do?

**** it, kick him in the balls, then choke him out and shove the nearest thing up his ass. Not exactly legal or even the right way to behave, but its a pedophile and more likely than not he will act out on his urges from his low gray matter brain. Dont believe me? Then click this link: Structural brain abnormalities in the frontostriatal system and cerebellum in pedophilia. J Psychiatr Res (PDF Download Available)
 
Make up a situation yourself that would most appropriately address certain Taboo/issues in the OP...

We all know where he's getting at, just pick a situation where it would be most difficult for you to decide.

i would've thought my reply made this clear - i can see a time when pedophilia will be openly admitted to or at least it won't be unheard of (and at least one poster here has cited a case of a pedophile "coming out" to her)
 
That would be against the rules. There's a lot of things I, personally, don't say to you for that reason.

Well if I am a pedophile for being honest about the fact that teenage girls are sometimes attractive then so is all of western mainstream media and culture.

You are not awesome.

And you are calling the people that agree with me pedophiles as well.

A lot of teenage girls are attractive. That doesnt make me a pedophile. And like I said - I have had offers from teenage girls and turned them down. And since they were above 16 I actually could have legally had sex with them Im pretty sure since 16 is legal age in my state. But I do not like to see adults that have 16 year old girlfriends. In my opinion the legal age should probably be 16.

And when was the last time an attractive 16 year old girl wanted to have sex with you anyway?
 
That would be against the rules. There's a lot of things I, personally, don't say to you for that reason.

The last time I was visiting one of my younger sisters and she was staying in this hostel lace in Sydney. Two of the girls that lived there came to see her while I was there - and both were 16 and hot. When they left one of them told me her room number. Encouraging me to come see her later. When they left I raised eyebrows at my little sister and she said "Dont even think about it." I did think about it. But I didnt go see her. So how am I a pedophile exactly?

edit- That was about 5 years ago now. I really dont expect any more offers from teenage girls at my age. That may have been my last chance to have sex with an attractive teenage girl.

I know guys that live with 16 year old girlfriends. To me it seems wrong. because I am not a pedophile.
 
The last time I was visiting one of my younger sisters and she was staying in this hostel lace in Sydney. Two of the girls that lived there came to see her while I was there - and both were 16 and hot. When they left one of them told me her room number. Encouraging me to come see her later. When they left I raised eyebrows at my little sister and she said "Dont even think about it." I did think about it. But I didnt go see her. So how am I a pedophile exactly?

edit- That was about 5 years ago now. I really dont expect any more offers from teenage girls at my age. That may have been my last chance to have sex with an attractive teenage girl.

I know guys that live with 16 year old girlfriends. To me it seems wrong. because I am not a pedophile.

Common sense should be the standard bearer...not the law. A guy in his 30s living with or dating a 16 year old girl and having sex...is definitely a no ****ing no. Would I consider that pedophilish. YES!
 
If he told me and I thus knew for a fact he was a pedophile and I had young kids?

I would tell him to get help immediately.

If he did not to my satisfaction, I would tell him to move within 3 months or I will tell the cops (just so they know), tell everyone in the area and out him by placing an ad either in the local paper and/or online.

When he moved, I would still inform the police as well as the police where he moved to. Plus, I might tell his new neighbors also.

I am not taking any chances with my kids with this sick ****.
 
Common sense should be the standard bearer...not the law. A guy in his 30s living with or dating a 16 year old girl and having sex...is definitely a no ****ing no. Would I consider that pedophilish. YES!

I agree. But that doesnt change the fact the a lot of teenage girls are attractive. Me saying that a teenage girl is attractive doesnt make me a pedophile at all. And he guy that said that is a jerk.
 
I agree. But that doesnt change the fact the a lot of teenage girls are attractive. Me saying that a teenage girl is attractive doesnt make me a pedophile at all. And he guy that said that is a jerk.

Well, I'm old, near blind, and certainly at the latter stages of being totally deaf. I agee. We do live in a world with a lot of teen girls who look like they're going on 30 and beautiful to the hilt. THEY LOOK LIKE, they look like, they look like. SB, I agree man, there are a lot of LOOK LIKE very hot gal. BUT their brains are still kid brains.
 
Well if I am a pedophile for being honest about the fact that teenage girls are sometimes attractive then so is all of western mainstream media and culture.

That is not pedophilia. Learn what words mean. Pedophilia refers to primary or exclusive attraction to pre-pubescent children. The more you know...
 
That is not pedophilia. Learn what words mean. Pedophilia refers to primary or exclusive attraction to pre-pubescent children. The more you know...

So what do you call a person that has sex with a 14 year old girl? Or looks at naked pictures of one?

Google search tells me this -

paedophile
ˈpiːdə(ʊ)fʌɪl/
noun
noun: pedophile

a person who is sexually attracted to children.

Origin
https://www.google.com.au/search?q=pedophile&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&gws_rd=cr&ei=qTtBVtrHJoPKmwXFkYHoCA

And give me your definition of a dictator. Definitions change you know. And often people do not agree on them. Dont believe everything your little dictionary tells you hey.
 
That is not pedophilia. Learn what words mean. Pedophilia refers to primary or exclusive attraction to pre-pubescent children. The more you know...

And there is no need to be rude you know.
 
So what do you call a person that has sex with a 14 year old girl? Or looks at naked pictures of one?

Google search tells me this -


https://www.google.com.au/search?q=pedophile&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&gws_rd=cr&ei=qTtBVtrHJoPKmwXFkYHoCA

And give me your definition of a dictator. Definitions change you know. And often people do not agree on them. Dont believe everything your little dictionary tells you hey.

Some one who has sex with underage girls is a sex offender. Some one primarily or exclusively attracted to pubescent girls is a hebephile. Some one who is primarily or exclusively attracted to those in late adolescence is an ephebophile. Some one who looks at naked pictures of underage children is (probably) a user of child pornography.

You should also learn the difference between an action and states of being. It is the difference between coughing and being sick.
 
Well if I am a pedophile for being honest about the fact that teenage girls are sometimes attractive then so is all of western mainstream media and culture.

You are not awesome.

And you are calling the people that agree with me pedophiles as well.

A lot of teenage girls are attractive. That doesnt make me a pedophile. And like I said - I have had offers from teenage girls and turned them down. And since they were above 16 I actually could have legally had sex with them Im pretty sure since 16 is legal age in my state. But I do not like to see adults that have 16 year old girlfriends. In my opinion the legal age should probably be 16.

And when was the last time an attractive 16 year old girl wanted to have sex with you anyway?

The last time I was visiting one of my younger sisters and she was staying in this hostel lace in Sydney. Two of the girls that lived there came to see her while I was there - and both were 16 and hot. When they left one of them told me her room number. Encouraging me to come see her later. When they left I raised eyebrows at my little sister and she said "Dont even think about it." I did think about it. But I didnt go see her. So how am I a pedophile exactly?

edit- That was about 5 years ago now. I really dont expect any more offers from teenage girls at my age. That may have been my last chance to have sex with an attractive teenage girl.

I know guys that live with 16 year old girlfriends. To me it seems wrong. because I am not a pedophile.

I agree. But that doesnt change the fact the a lot of teenage girls are attractive. Me saying that a teenage girl is attractive doesnt make me a pedophile at all. And he guy that said that is a jerk.

Who are you actually trying to convince of anything? Me or yourself?
 
Who are you actually trying to convince of anything? Me or yourself?

I am thinking of a verb, beings with "T" and ends in "ing". I would not take the posts too seriously.
 
Who are you actually trying to convince of anything? Me or yourself?

my first reaction is it seems like rationalizing

but it's ephebophilia, not pedophilia. The point of this thread is the victims, or would-be victims, are little kids. That tends to elicit a different reaction
 
Have any of you read Lolita? You should - Humbert is a fictional character but Nabokov, through Humbert, explains EXACTLY what pedophilia is and shows EXACTLY what pedophilia isn't. I read Lolita in an effort to understand more of WHY I was a victim when I was a child - why do grown adults even find kids a turn on? (And by KIDS I mean KIDS . . . I am not talking about teenagers in some state of adolescent change on their way to adulthood - but pre-pubescent KIDS. Seeing as how such events shaped my entire life I was always beyond troubled by the WHY).

Adults and attraction is like this: MATURE and CHILDBEARING or STRENGTH features are the appeal: shapely hips, defined curves, full lips, defined muscles, body hair in certain ways - etc. These are 'grown up' things. If you're attracted to teen girls that are busty, have hips and are on their way to becoming women it is these 'adult' features you're drawn to. You are not drawn to the fact that they're 'underaged'.

That stands in direct opposition to what pedophiles LIKE.

In the mind of a pedophile it goes like this:

Pre-puberty children have certain physical and psychological characteristics (a LACK of breasts, a LACK of body fat in certain places, a lack of wide hips, they're naive, immature (easy to mold into a willing sex partner). It's the PRESENCE of certain juvenile characteristics (usually more than one) and the ABSENCE of certain adult characteristics that make them appealing.

Pedophilia is a PRIMARY (main) attraction toward kids. They'll respond to children in the SAME WAY a grown adult will respond to a grown or mostly developed adult and some will NEVER be attracted to an adult - only kids.

SOME aggressors, however, aren't 'pedophiles' simply put but just monstrous predators that feed on AVAILABLE victims - age and gender usually doesn't matter to a molester or a rapist. It's victim-ability: access, the ability to manipulate and control, vindictive behaviors like this that drive the sexual acts - nothing else. Not appearance. Not boobs VS no boobs - etc. It's the ability to sexually control or govern someone - ANYONE - that drives the predator.

Therefor: Predators are perfectly capable of loving an ADULT and finding adults to be intensely attractive, visually speaking. Pedophiles are attracted to UNDERAGED features and mentalities . . . and predators are attracted to the idea of being able to dominate, humiliate, govern, control.

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MOST men who like 'young looking women' just like tits and ass - they just favor smoother skin and sweeter smiles . . . hardly worth getting upset over.

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On top of that differntia is the heaped on AGE and LEGALLY DEFINED limit that society declares right or not-right. In some countries a 16 year old girl is seen as a woman who is perfectly capable of consenting to sex with a man of any age. Likewise: in the US age of consent and statutory rape age limits shift state to state. What's okay in some states isn't okay in others so even with US there's a pool of differences (age is one factor, but age-gap between partners is another and whether or not the older individual possible KNEW the younger individual WAS underaged in yet another factor).

The Age of Consent |
 
Who are you actually trying to convince of anything? Me or yourself?

I think that the legal age should be 18 and not 16. And that the world needs a global min sex age. 16 is too young.
 
The world does have a minimum age. 18 is the age of consent for commercial sex worldwide.

Well that is a good start. Im not so sure that is true though because there are places that dont even have a legal age plus heaps of places like South Asia where commercial underage sex is everywhere.

Plus look at USA with that chick Tracy Lords how she started doing porn before 18 and became biggest pornstar and all of these Americans ahve her on tape and then you find out that she was underage - making many America pedophiles of sorts.

And there is nothing stopping people uploading underage home made porn to mainstream porn sites and it would be easy for a person to upload a 17 year old girl in a video and maybe nobody would know. It should be illegal to upload amatuer porn to the internet.

And what I mean is a global age of consent being set at 18. For commercial and non-commercial sex.
 
I think that the legal age should be 18 and not 16. And that the world needs a global min sex age. 16 is too young.

Legal age for sex consent?

I think it needs to be in proportion to rights, milestones, privileges and expectations of a society.

In the US, I dare say, we covet the 'youthful innocent' thing by far - 18 is an acceptable line for many people (maturity, etc) wise. But in other countries where they expect more from and extend more to people at the age of 16 and 17 - obviously 18 to them is different than it is to us.

So - yeah - we'll see a dynamic array as it should be. No two countries are alike.

Minimums? I don't know - I think 12 is too young for any country due to biological issues of pregnancy even within marriage. Maybe 14 would make more universal sense . . . but again: it's up to a society to decide for itself.
 
Legal age for sex consent?

I think it needs to be in proportion to rights, milestones, privileges and expectations of a society.

In the US, I dare say, we covet the 'youthful innocent' thing by far - 18 is an acceptable line for many people (maturity, etc) wise. But in other countries where they expect more from and extend more to people at the age of 16 and 17 - obviously 18 to them is different than it is to us.

So - yeah - we'll see a dynamic array as it should be. No two countries are alike.

Minimums? I don't know - I think 12 is too young for any country due to biological issues of pregnancy even within marriage. Maybe 14 would make more universal sense . . . but again: it's up to a society to decide for itself.

Whatever. People with money travel. Borders mean nothing. And 14 is too young. And we need to stop the wealthy having so-called Fantasy Islands that are full of underage girls that are used as sex salves for orgies and what not.

"Because you took advantage of a sinner/because you took advantage/because you took/because you took advantage of my disadvantage […] /because of all you did/because of all I did not/you have to die."

It is not very moderate of you to suggest 14 as a global min age of consent.

Japan has good pedophile laws. They can convict a pedophile even if they did their molesting in another nation. Western nations should all do that for a start.
 
Well that is a good start. Im not so sure that is true though because there are places that dont even have a legal age plus heaps of places like South Asia where commercial underage sex is everywhere.

Plus look at USA with that chick Tracy Lords how she started doing porn before 18 and became biggest pornstar and all of these Americans ahve her on tape and then you find out that she was underage - making many America pedophiles of sorts.

And there is nothing stopping people uploading underage home made porn to mainstream porn sites and it would be easy for a person to upload a 17 year old girl in a video and maybe nobody would know. It should be illegal to upload amatuer porn to the internet.

And what I mean is a global age of consent being set at 18. For commercial and non-commercial sex.

I disagree.

That idea would create a whole slue of statutory rape cases destroying the lives of young people.

I began having sex at the tender age of 13, with a 15 year-old girl. Most of my friends were engaging in various activities between the ages of 15 -17. Granted this was back in the 60's and 70's but I don't think things have changed all that much.

However we have teens being charged with statutory rape with only a couple years difference in age in the minority of states where the age of consent is 18, absent a close-in-age exception.

Last I checked, the average age of consent in the majority of U.S. states and countries around the world is 16. I think that is both rational and reasonable. Of course I also think it is rational and reasonable to teach Sex Education in an honest way beginning in Middle School, because I know kids are going to experiment whether we teach them or not, and they should know what's what before they make mistakes out of ignorance.

The fact that you declare an attraction for teen girls in the age group you would like to make illegal, as if making it illegal would be a further barrier to your desires???

THAT makes me suspicious of your real desires. To paraphrase Shakespeare's "Hamlet," methinks thou dost protest too much.
 
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