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Hate Politics

Do you hate the political game process?

  • Yes

    Votes: 18 78.3%

  • No

    Votes: 5 21.7%
  • Total voters
    23
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Do you hate the "political game" as much as I do? All the lying... all the partisan hacks deflecting everything from one side and harping on the smallest nothing from the other side AND THEN we get just another asshat in office at the end of the day.

What an annoying year and a half of asswiping bull****.

Could a mod add a yes, no or other poll please with "Do you hate the political game process?" for me. Not sure how I messed that up. Thanks
 
Bodhisattva said:
Do you hate the "political game" as much as I do? All the lying... all the partisan hacks deflecting everything from one side and harping on the smallest nothing from the other side AND THEN we get just another asshat in office at the end of the day.

What an annoying year and a half of asswiping bull****.
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If we hate it, we clearly don't hate it enough to not be members on a political debate forum.
 
Cardinal said:
If we hate it, we clearly don't hate it enough to not be members on a political debate forum.
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But many of us debate abortion or cops...
 
Bodhisattva said:
Do you hate the "political game" as much as I do? All the lying... all the partisan hacks deflecting everything from one side and harping on the smallest nothing from the other side AND THEN we get just another asshat in office at the end of the day.

What an annoying year and a half of asswiping bull****.

Could a mod add a yes, no or other poll please with "Do you hate the political game process?" for me. Not sure how I messed that up. Thanks
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This is why Aristotle named it "politics". It is what goes on in the cities -- the polis.
 
Riveroaks said:
This is why Aristotle named it "politics". It is what goes on in the cities -- the polis.
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Partisan hackery exists in the cities but not the rural?
 
Aristoteles, of course, did nothing of the kind (invent and apply the name, that is).
 
Bodhisattva said:
Partisan hackery exists in the cities but not the rural?
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Back in those days according to Aristotle apparently not.

The rural areas did not vote.

The farmers were not citizens of Athens, Argos, Corinth, Thebes, etc.

The farmers were free men under the hegemony of the closest city state.

The era of the Greek city states vanished with the advent of Philip and Alexander the Great however.

It lived again briefly in Italy between the fall of Rome and Constantinople.

After that then however, the emperors or the Popes or the kings and queens ruled.

Politics was not reborn until the American and French revolutions.
 
Riveroaks said:
Back in those days according to Aristotle apparently not.

The rural areas did not vote.

The farmers were not citizens of Athens.

The farmers were free men under the hegemony of the closest city state.

The era of the Greek city states vanished with the advent of Philip and Alexander the Great however.
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I am talking about hackery... not voting.
 
Riveroaks said:
Back in those days according to Aristotle apparently not.

The rural areas did not vote.

The farmers were not citizens of Athens.

The farmers were free men under the hegemony of the closest city state.

The era of the Greek city states vanished with the advent of Philip and Alexander the Great however.

It lived again briefly in Italy between the fall of Rome and Constantinople.

Since then however, the emperors or the Popes or the kings and queens have ruled.

Politics was not reborn until the American and French revolutions.
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what about the english parliament?
 
Poll installed or not (yet), answer is yes.
 
Bodhisattva said:
Do you hate the "political game" as much as I do? All the lying... all the partisan hacks deflecting everything from one side and harping on the smallest nothing from the other side AND THEN we get just another asshat in office at the end of the day.

What an annoying year and a half of asswiping bull****.

Could a mod add a yes, no or other poll please with "Do you hate the political game process?" for me. Not sure how I messed that up. Thanks
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No, I do not hate the political game.

It gets played...and is a necessary part of the "game" we call democracy.

Yeah...politicians lie to make themselves seem greater than they are.

Humans lie to make themselves seem greater than they are.

Politicians lie in order to further their careers.

Humans lie in order to further their careers.

Nothing wrong with politics that is not also wrong with life.

And I do not hate life...so it makes sense that I do not hate politics.
 
Frank Apisa said:
No, I do not hate the political game.

It gets played...and is a necessary part of the "game" we call democracy.

Yeah...politicians lie to make themselves seem greater than they are.

Humans lie to make themselves seem greater than they are.

Politicians lie in order to further their careers.

Humans lie in order to further their careers.

Nothing wrong with politics that is not also wrong with life.

And I do not hate life...so it makes sense that I do not hate politics.
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I agree.

It is a necessary evil that goes along with the system of democratic or republican-democratic government.
 
Unitedwestand13 said:
what about the english parliament?
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The whole description of ancient Greece is rubbish anyway, farmers did vote, seeing how Athens included the surrounding area of Attica.

The term "politics" arose and found usage around the 1530s and had nothing to do with ancient Greece, least of all Aristotle.
 
Cardinal said:
If we hate it, we clearly don't hate it enough to not be members on a political debate forum.
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My thinking exactly. Kinda the wrong place fore that sort of thing. :)

There's much to hate in the partisan hackery, distortion, lying, and out right denying facts blatantly obvious.
Thing is that some / many of both sides of the political spectrum practice it, some more extensively than others.

Somewhere I either read or heard about the idea of a society based on strict honesty in all things. Don't think that it would last very long. Sometimes harmless lies are the 'social lubricant' that allows us to live with each other.

So, logically, some of this partisan lying is not only so that we can live with each other, but also so that we can conduct politics with each other? Hmm.
 
eohrnberger said:
My thinking exactly. Kinda the wrong place fore that sort of thing. :)

There's much to hate in the partisan hackery, distortion, lying, and out right denying facts blatantly obvious.
Thing is that some / many of both sides of the political spectrum practice it, some more extensively than others.

Somewhere I either read or heard about the idea of a society based on strict honesty in all things. Don't think that it would last very long. Sometimes harmless lies are the 'social lubricant' that allows us to live with each other.

So, logically, some of this partisan lying is not only so that we can live with each other, but also so that we can conduct politics with each other? Hmm.
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There are countries that would practically break down if the honesty we found commonplace were suddenly introduced into their societies, and ours would break down if the kind of honesty one found in Finland were suddenly introduced into ours. Much of the dishonesty that is a "social lubricant" exists purely to fuel and protect the dishonesty we are already used to.
 
Cardinal said:
There are countries that would practically break down if the honesty we found commonplace were suddenly introduced into their societies, and ours would break down if the kind of honesty one found in Finland were suddenly introduced into ours. Much of the dishonesty that is a "social lubricant" exists purely to fuel and protect the dishonesty we are already used to.
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I think that's a good observation there, Cardinal, the need for 'social lubricant' based on the dishonestly we are already used to. Stray too far from what we are used to, and it's bound to be irritating (probably more so than it should be).
 
eohrnberger said:
I think that's a good observation there, Cardinal, the need for 'social lubricant' based on the dishonestly we are already used to. Stray too far from what we are used to, and it's bound to be irritating (probably more so than it should be).
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Perhaps, but I really don't think you'd like Finland's level of honesty. You can find out anyone's income. And I really do mean anyone.
 
Cardinal said:
Perhaps, but I really don't think you'd like Finland's level of honesty. You can find out anyone's income. And I really do mean anyone.
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Well that kinda figures. I'm not from Finland. :)
Wouldn't be used to it.
 
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