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Hate Politics

Do you hate the political game process?

  • Yes

    Votes: 18 78.3%
  • No

    Votes: 5 21.7%

  • Total voters
    23
Looks as though I am the only one who voted "no."

Well...I do not hate the political process...I do not hate politicians...I do not hate government.

I think all the "hating" in these areas are way overdone...and, in the long run, as destructive of good government as anything that is being hated.

But...I may be wrong.
 
Looks as though I am the only one who voted "no."

Well...I do not hate the political process...I do not hate politicians...I do not hate government.

I think all the "hating" in these areas are way overdone...and, in the long run, as destructive of good government as anything that is being hated.

But...I may be wrong.

If there's anyone to hate, it's ourselves. We get the politics and politicians we deserve. They cater to us.
 
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I used to get angry about it. Now I just laugh at the absurdity of it all.
 
Yes. I hate it. But then, I'm conservative and I hate everything anyway.
 
What I hate is the utterly conformist nature of those who divide the world into two groups and then play politics as if it were cowboys and indians.

IMO, those prone to this are seeking a tribe to which they can belong. Safety in numbers and all.....
 
Do you hate the "political game" as much as I do? All the lying... all the partisan hacks deflecting everything from one side and harping on the smallest nothing from the other side AND THEN we get just another asshat in office at the end of the day.

What an annoying year and a half of asswiping bull****.

Could a mod add a yes, no or other poll please with "Do you hate the political game process?" for me. Not sure how I messed that up. Thanks

I hate the dishonesty that goes with politics. Politics is necessary because of the dishonesty in politics. I see it as a balance.
 
Much of the dishonesty that is a "social lubricant" exists purely to fuel and protect the dishonesty we are already used to.

Social lubricant? That's odd.

I have never found astroglide or ky to be especially dishonest, myself.
 
Back in those days according to Aristotle apparently not.

The rural areas did not vote.

The farmers were not citizens of Athens, Argos, Corinth, Thebes, etc.

The farmers were free men under the hegemony of the closest city state.

The era of the Greek city states vanished with the advent of Philip and Alexander the Great however.

It lived again briefly in Italy between the fall of Rome and Constantinople.

After that then however, the emperors or the Popes or the kings and queens ruled.

Politics was not reborn until the American and French revolutions.



WOW!

Would you be so kind as to cite which of Aristotle's works covered that area?

The closest I can come with a reference would be Nicomachean Ethics, which doesn't even mention politics, or Rhetoric which doesn't either, but certainly defines what it has become.
 
Do you hate the "political game" as much as I do? All the lying... all the partisan hacks deflecting everything from one side and harping on the smallest nothing from the other side AND THEN we get just another asshat in office at the end of the day.

What an annoying year and a half of asswiping bull****.

Could a mod add a yes, no or other poll please with "Do you hate the political game process?" for me. Not sure how I messed that up. Thanks



I love politics, and the "game" when played well is an awesome thing to watch. The best example is Canada's most recent election which seems to have invigorated the country. They actually had viewers to the live cabinet swearing in ceremony, and its never been televised before.

What I hate are the people who are not here to debate, but to spin, carry the party line no matter what. We get enough of that from the politicians themselves without trolls descending like **** flies. I hate this because so many otherwise enlightening threads are allowed to become high school name calling, and get diverted to George Bush and how he lost World War 1, caused the dirty 30's and invaded Vietnam.

And I most hate it when a poster makes a claim, it proves to be made up bull****, and they coward out. These, I maintain, are reasons why this site is dying.
 
Do you hate the "political game" as much as I do? All the lying... all the partisan hacks deflecting everything from one side and harping on the smallest nothing from the other side AND THEN we get just another asshat in office at the end of the day.

What an annoying year and a half of asswiping bull****.

Could a mod add a yes, no or other poll please with "Do you hate the political game process?" for me. Not sure how I messed that up. Thanks

It does, indeed, suck, but there doesn't seem to be much we can do about it. The Republocrats have driven it to this state and there isn't enough pushback against them to stop it.
 
WOW!

Would you be so kind as to cite which of Aristotle's works covered that area?

The closest I can come with a reference would be Nicomachean Ethics, which doesn't even mention politics, or Rhetoric which doesn't either, but certainly defines what it has become.

Obviously, "The Politics."

But my understanding of Aristotle comes chiefly from Bertrand Russell's "The History Of Western Philosophy."

If you have not yet read Russell's book you can get a copy at Barnes & Noble Booksellers Inc.
 
I love politics, and the "game" when played well is an awesome thing to watch. The best example is Canada's most recent election which seems to have invigorated the country. They actually had viewers to the live cabinet swearing in ceremony, and its never been televised before.

What I hate are the people who are not here to debate, but to spin, carry the party line no matter what. We get enough of that from the politicians themselves without trolls descending like **** flies. I hate this because so many otherwise enlightening threads are allowed to become high school name calling, and get diverted to George Bush and how he lost World War 1, caused the dirty 30's and invaded Vietnam.

And I most hate it when a poster makes a claim, it proves to be made up bull****, and they coward out. These, I maintain, are reasons why this site is dying.

Great post FL. Precisely correct. IMO, the political process provides a measuring stick from which underlying agendas are exposed, and rhetoric receives scrutiny in the light of day.

Without the political process, government would devolve further into a sea of unreported and unexposed efforts to further it's self perpetuating mission.

To your final point, I view such antics as evidence of the effectiveness of the powerful forces that have entered education and the media, and where the work to cut these forces off needs to be concentrated. It doesn't make these people more tolerable, but it does expose how little is expected from the people these powerful forces have been able to attract.
 
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