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Is black-on-black crime relevant to the subject of black-on-white crime?

Is black-on-black crime relevant to the subject of black-on-white crime?

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Is black-on-black crime relevant to the subject of black-on-white crime?
 
Robbie Loucks said:
Is black-on-black crime relevant to the subject of black-on-white crime?
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Black kill blacks more than whites kill blacks. Guess what? Whites kill whites more than blacks kill whites.

It's a red herring.
 
Amadeus said:
Black kill blacks more than whites kill blacks. Guess what? Whites kill whites more than blacks kill whites.

It's a red herring.
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Kind of Misleading since there are Many/multiples more whites than blacks.
Blacks kill 93% of the Murdered Blacks, as opposed to 84% same-race-murder for whites.
But there is still a higher per capita Black on White/everyone Murder rate than the reverse.

The Big problem: Overall:
Race and crime in the United States - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
[.....]
Homicide
According to the US Department of Justice, blacks accounted for 52.5% of homicide offenders from 1980 to 2008, with whites 45.3% and "Other" 2.2%. The offending rate for Blacks was almost 8 times higher than whites (per 100,000), and the victim rate 6 times higher (per 100,000).
Most murders were intraracial, with 84% of white homicide victims murdered by whites, and 93% of black victims murdered by blacks.[33][34][35]
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Robbery
According to the National Crime Victimization Survey in 2002, the black arrest rate for robbery was 8.55 times Higher than whites, and blacks were 16 times more likely to be incarcerated for robbery than non-Hispanic whites.
Robberies with White victims and Black offenders were more than 12 Times more common than the reverse.[38][39]​


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Do not understand Amadeus' below response to me.
Nor his above one to the OP, for that matter.
 
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Robbie Loucks said:
Is black-on-black crime relevant to the subject of black-on-white crime?
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Personally, I think no individual crime is very relevant to any other individual crime, unless we're talking organized crime or a series by the same perpetrator.

Why is the race of the involved parties relevant at all?
Person kills other person. Bad. But acceptable if reason was sufficient.


Now, overall crime statistics can point to economic or cultural problems in a given area, I think. And some of those may be due to racial tensions, in part.
I dunno, I'm half asleep and rambling.
 
Robbie Loucks said:
Is black-on-black crime relevant to the subject of black-on-white crime?
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No because simplistically crime is higher in areas of poverty, and the inherent continued racism within our police, justice, and penal systems assure the continued poverty of non-white races, so even the high rate of black-on-black crime is an outcome with systemic racism as it's foundation.
 
mbig said:
Kind of Misleading since there are Many/multiples more whites than blacks.
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I fail to see how its misleading. You cited very clear percentages which support what I said. The factors which play into the statistics are significant and deserve their own discussion.
 
Summerwind said:
No because simplistically crime is higher in areas of poverty, and the inherent continued racism within our police, justice, and penal systems assure the continued poverty of non-white races, so even the high rate of black-on-black crime is an outcome with systemic racism as it's foundation.
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/end of thread.
 
Summerwind said:
No because simplistically crime is higher in areas of poverty, and the inherent continued racism within our police, justice, and penal systems assure the continued poverty of non-white races, so even the high rate of black-on-black crime is an outcome with systemic racism as it's foundation.
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Right... systemic racism (lead by white people) leads black people to break laws. Thanks for that insight.
 
Bodhisattva said:
Right... systemic racism (lead by white people) leads black people to break laws. Thanks for that insight.
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Poverty leads to people breaking laws, racism assures a higher percentage of non-whites in poverty. You can't really be as stupid as your response indicates, right?
 
Bodhisattva said:
Right... systemic racism (lead by white people) leads black people to break laws. Thanks for that insight.
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The bottom line is that murder is generally committed by people who know each other.
 
Summerwind said:
No because simplistically crime is higher in areas of poverty, and the inherent continued racism within our police, justice, and penal systems assure the continued poverty of non-white races, so even the high rate of black-on-black crime is an outcome with systemic racism as it's foundation.
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Oh please, make me laugh more.

And make my ex-illegal immigrant, Hispanic father laugh more too.

:lamo

What a ****ing joke idea.
 
Luftwaffe said:
Oh please, make me laugh more.

And make my ex-illegal immigrant, Hispanic father laugh more too.

:lamo

What a ****ing joke idea.
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Are you seriously trying to say that impovershed areas do not have more violent crime?
 
Robbie Loucks said:
Is black-on-black crime relevant to the subject of black-on-white crime?
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You mean, we should let bad people rob, rape and kill helpless citizens? That is a little too liberal for my taste.
 
Luftwaffe said:
The notion that "systemic racism" and "The white man is keeping us back!" is ****ing retarded
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Systematic racism exists. You and I as white people aren't directly responsible, but to deny that structural racism exists is pretty ignorant. I want to give you the benefit of the doubt here.
 
Don't read anything into these two graphs. I'm sure that they're unrelated.

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Shadowless said:
Are you seriously trying to say that impovershed areas do not have more violent crime?
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It's not poverty that causes the crime, though. It's lack of a father.
 
joG said:
You mean, we should let bad people rob, rape and kill helpless citizens? That is a little too liberal for my taste.
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Your reply doesn't resemble or address in anyway whatsoever what you quoted. I'll give you the benefit of the doubt and assume you made a posting error.

You might as well have said, "Bag of hammers eats meatloaf".
 
Amadeus said:
Black kill blacks more than whites kill blacks. Guess what? Whites kill whites more than blacks kill whites.

It's a red herring.
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No. It would be nice, if it were a red herring. Pitty that it is, the statistics do show a rather greater problem for African Americans than for other groups.
 
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