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U.S. to Begin 'Direct Action on the Ground' in Iraq, Syria

Is the USA gov't action Internationally illegal in these matters?

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404 - Page Not Found :( Carter: U.S. to Begin 'Direct Action on the Ground' in Iraq, Syria"Defense Secretary Ashton Carter said Tuesday that the U.S. will begin "direct action on the ground" against ISIS forces in Iraq and Syria, aiming to intensify pressure on the militants as progress against them remains elusive. "http://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/iraq-we-didnt-ask-u-s-ground-operations-n452756Iraq: We Didn't Ask for U.S. Ground Operations"The Iraqi government said Wednesday it didn't ask for — and doesn't need — the "direct action on the ground" promised by the Pentagon. The revelation came a day after Defense Secretary Ashton Carter said the U.S. may carry out more unilateral ground raids"Since the UN, Iraq and Syria have not authorized or requested this action, does it constitute an illegal invasion?Does the fact we devastated Libya without UN or Libyan authorization establish a precedent for this action?Does the fact we devastated Iraq without UN or Iraqi authorization establish a precedent for this action?Could these actions be War Crimes?Hundreds of thousands dead in Libya, hundreds of thousands dead in Iraq, hundreds of thousands dead in Syria, and it's all OK?Has anyone noticed that these sand boxes sit on OIL?If wars cost trillions of dollars, are they just another cost of doing business?Who's the business?Is the USA gov't action Internationally illegal in these matters?
 
I have been unable to "edit" this post and have tried repeatedly. The link is valid

Ashton Carter: U.S. to Begin '''Direct Action on the Ground''' in Iraq, Syria - NBC News

Ashton Carter: U.S. to Begin 'Direct Action on the Ground' in Iraq, Syria

"Defense Secretary Ashton Carter said Tuesday that the U.S. will begin "direct action on the ground" against ISIS forces in Iraq and Syria, aiming to intensify pressure on the militants as progress against them remains elusive. "

Iraq: We Didn'''t Ask for U.S. Ground Operations - NBC News
Iraq: We Didn't Ask for U.S. Ground Operations"The Iraqi government said Wednesday it didn't ask for — and doesn't need — the "direct action on the ground" promised by the Pentagon. The revelation came a day after Defense Secretary Ashton Carter said the U.S. may carry out more unilateral ground raids"

Since the UN, Iraq and Syria have not authorized or requested this action, does it constitute an illegal invasion?
Does the fact we devastated Libya without UN or Libyan authorization establish a precedent for this action?
Does the fact we devastated Iraq without UN or Iraqi authorization establish a precedent for this action?
Could these actions be War Crimes?Hundreds of thousands dead in Libya, hundreds of thousands dead in Iraq, hundreds of thousands dead in Syria, and it's all OK?
Has anyone noticed that these sand boxes sit on OIL?
If wars cost trillions of dollars, are they just another cost of doing business?
Who's the business?
Is the USA gov't action Internationally illegal in these matters?
 
This stunt is just to keep up the narrative of fighting ISIS;)
 
He needs to send 100,000 troops over there and stomp the living **** out of these bastards; if he's going to go to war. He won't call it a war, but that's beside the point.
 
American said:
He needs to send 100,000 troops over there and stomp the living **** out of these bastards; if he's going to go to war. He won't call it a war, but that's beside the point.
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Why do American troops need to die because Saudi Arabia/Qatar/Turkey give terrorists weapons and money to ravage the middle east?
 
PakPuk said:
This stunt is just to keep up the narrative of fighting ISIS;)
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I see! Fund the Islamic fundies with one hand and fight them (or pretend to) with the other?
 
I didn't say it was needed, I'm saying if he's going to do it send over an overwhelming number.
 
American said:
He needs to send 100,000 troops over there and stomp the living **** out of these bastards; if he's going to go to war. He won't call it a war, but that's beside the point.
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He needs to wait until said Countries request such aid and then get UN authorization.
 
DaveFagan said:
He needs to wait until said Countries request such aid and then get UN authorization.
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**** the UN, all he needs in my book is a declaration of war from Congress. You saw how getting UN approval went last time, it made zero difference in the criticism received. They have terrorists running terrorism committees and human rights violators running human rights committees. It's a ****ing clown show.
 
DaveFagan said:
I see! Fund the Islamic fundies with one hand and fight them (or pretend to) with the other?
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ISIS will be destroyed after they have fulfilled their purpose.
 
Nope. Not war crimes. But there will be schnoocks that will say so.
 
American said:
**** the UN, all he needs in my book is a declaration of war from Congress. You saw how getting UN approval went last time, it made zero difference in the criticism received. They have terrorists running terrorism committees and human rights violators running human rights committees. It's a ****ing clown show.
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Then you are saying you approve of an illegal invasion and war. Screw 'em all, let God sort 'em out, eh?
 
PakPuk said:
ISIS will be destroyed after they have fulfilled their purpose.
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If their purpose is to provide an enemy for the "Business of War" then why would they ever be destroyed?
 
joG said:
Which stunt?
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Special forces helping in the raid of the prison in ISIS territory. Just to maintain the narrative of seriously fighting ISIS.
 
DaveFagan said:
I have been unable to "edit" this post and have tried repeatedly. The link is valid

Ashton Carter: U.S. to Begin '''Direct Action on the Ground''' in Iraq, Syria - NBC News

Ashton Carter: U.S. to Begin 'Direct Action on the Ground' in Iraq, Syria

"Defense Secretary Ashton Carter said Tuesday that the U.S. will begin "direct action on the ground" against ISIS forces in Iraq and Syria, aiming to intensify pressure on the militants as progress against them remains elusive. "

Iraq: We Didn'''t Ask for U.S. Ground Operations - NBC News
Iraq: We Didn't Ask for U.S. Ground Operations"The Iraqi government said Wednesday it didn't ask for — and doesn't need — the "direct action on the ground" promised by the Pentagon. The revelation came a day after Defense Secretary Ashton Carter said the U.S. may carry out more unilateral ground raids"

Since the UN, Iraq and Syria have not authorized or requested this action, does it constitute an illegal invasion?
Does the fact we devastated Libya without UN or Libyan authorization establish a precedent for this action?
Does the fact we devastated Iraq without UN or Iraqi authorization establish a precedent for this action?
Could these actions be War Crimes?Hundreds of thousands dead in Libya, hundreds of thousands dead in Iraq, hundreds of thousands dead in Syria, and it's all OK?
Has anyone noticed that these sand boxes sit on OIL?
If wars cost trillions of dollars, are they just another cost of doing business?
Who's the business?
Is the USA gov't action Internationally illegal in these matters?
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Not illegal, but we require better international law and robust r2p.
 
DaveFagan said:
If their purpose is to provide an enemy for the "Business of War" then why would they ever be destroyed?
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Assad has to be removed before the invasion of Syria by western forces can begin to take out ISIS. That is why ISIS is still in existence.
 
joG said:
Nope. Not war crimes. But there will be schnoocks that will say so.
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Are you saying it is OK to invade any Nation you want to? No UN ok. No National request. No Congressional authorization. We have been funding IS through the Pentagon to the acknowledged tune of $500 million and another $1 billion through the CIA. With that kind of money, you would think someone would be on our side. ISIS/ISIL has wound up with our money and our weapons and it is just a big coinky-dink, eh?
 
DaveFagan said:
Then you are saying you approve of an illegal invasion and war. Screw 'em all, let God sort 'em out, eh?
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They weren't considered illegal prior to the UN, they were declaration of wars against the country itself.
 
DaveFagan said:
He needs to wait until said Countries request such aid and then get UN authorization.
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The UN is a joke. They value national sovereignty over human rights. They have no true power. In short...who care what they want? Basically they are like an operator for countries who need to communicate.
 
Why do we need direct actions? Screw then. Let Russia do it. We don't need to be involved.
 
stonewall50 said:
The UN is a joke. They value national sovereignty over human rights. They have no true power. In short...who care what they want? Basically they are like an operator for countries who need to communicate.
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National sovereignty and human rights come hand in hand.
 
stonewall50 said:
Why do we need direct actions? Screw then. Let Russia do it. We don't need to be involved.
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Why would the US want to do that? They would lose their hegemony over the region.
 
DaveFagan said:
Are you saying it is OK to invade any Nation you want to? No UN ok. No National request. No Congressional authorization. We have been funding IS through the Pentagon to the acknowledged tune of $500 million and another $1 billion through the CIA. With that kind of money, you would think someone would be on our side. ISIS/ISIL has wound up with our money and our weapons and it is just a big coinky-dink, eh?
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No. 'Wouldn't say that. But the cases named? It was too expensive maybe. But illegal? Never ever.
 
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