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Why Do Republicans View Trump as "Most Electable"

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  • Republicans have all gone crazy.

    Votes: 7 36.8%

  • Crazy republicans have all gone.

    Votes: 1 5.3%

  • Gone crazy republicans have.

    Votes: 5 26.3%

  • Utah.

    Votes: 6 31.6%
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In a recent poll, 70% of Republicans thought Trump was the most electable candidate for President. This is best accounted for by the fact that:
 
Which poll said that? As it is now only roughly 27% of Republicans support him for the presidency. He may be "on top" but there are also many others in the race pulling votes from others. Carson, Fiorina, Rubio, Cruz, Bush, Kasich, etc. Once some start dropping I predict Trump's numbers won't look the same as many Republicans couldn't support him. Honestly I think he's the most disastrous out of all the candidates who pulls in low-information voters with fiery rhetoric.
 
Trump is the most electable candidate for POTUS. It's that simple. Those who feel differently and are not republican or are just anti-Trump probably will never understand no matter how clearly it's been explained many times already.
 
digsbe said:
Which poll said that? As it is now only roughly 27% of Republicans support him for the presidency. He may be "on top" but there are also many others in the race pulling votes from others. Carson, Fiorina, Rubio, Cruz, Bush, Kasich, etc. Once some start dropping I predict Trump's numbers won't look the same as many Republicans couldn't support him. Honestly I think he's the most disastrous out of all the candidates who pulls in low-information voters with fiery rhetoric.
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No, there aren't, with the exception of Carson. The rest are in such small numbers as to be insignificant.
 
digsbe said:
Which poll said that? As it is now only roughly 27% of Republicans support him for the presidency. He may be "on top" but there are also many others in the race pulling votes from others. Carson, Fiorina, Rubio, Cruz, Bush, Kasich, etc. Once some start dropping I predict Trump's numbers won't look the same as many Republicans couldn't support him. Honestly I think he's the most disastrous out of all the candidates who pulls in low-information voters with fiery rhetoric.
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Here you go: Poll: Republicans view Donald Trump as most electable

clownboy said:
Trump is the most electable candidate for POTUS. It's that simple. Those who feel differently and are not republican or are just anti-Trump probably will never understand no matter how clearly it's been explained many times already.
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I would suggest that Republicans are actually the LEAST qualified to assess the electability of their candidate. The voters that matter in winning a party nomination are not the voters that matter in winning a general election. What appeals to the so-called party base rarely appeals to the "independent" and "undecided" voters, who tend to be more centrist (hence independant and undecided) than those involved in the primary process.
 
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clownboy said:
No, there aren't, with the exception of Carson. The rest are in such small numbers as to be insignificant.
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Not really, when looking collectivelly with Trump at the top having 27% of support, Carson has 21%, Rubio has 9.2%, Cruz 7.8%, Bush 7.2%, Fiorina 5.4%, etc. I think it's a safe bet most people not pulling from Trump don't particularly like him, and when others drop out that support is going to go to someone else. When considering the top is only 27% of the vote the others are not insignificant. You have to consider there are roughly 10 Republican candidates at this point with some of them like Rubio and Cruz being pretty similar ideologically. Here's the poll data: RealClearPolitics - Election 2016 - 2016 Republican Presidential Nomination
 
clownboy said:
Trump is the most electable candidate for POTUS. It's that simple. Those who feel differently and are not republican or are just anti-Trump probably will never understand no matter how clearly it's been explained many times already.
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Trump and Carson look so good because they are both outside the "old boys clubs" and "establishment" and they both are saying things those of us right of center have been thinking and also craving to hear from our leaders. But as others begin to drop out due to inability to gain any traction at all, who knows how a Fiorina or Rubio or J Bush or Kasich will begin to resonate with us when it gets down to the nitty gritty of where we cast our vote.

But, with the possible exception of Graham, there is nobody in the GOP field that I do not believe would make a better President than anybody the Democrats are offering, and that would include Donald Trump. At least nobody in the GOP field would do as much damage as we will see by electing another liberal pushing big government as the solution for every problem.
 
My best guess is that they have not figured out that Trump is a RINO yet and (falsely?) believe that most would not vote for HRC (or whichever left wing loon the DNC decides to anoint) in a general election.
 
clownboy said:
Trump is the most electable candidate for POTUS. It's that simple. Those who feel differently and are not republican or are just anti-Trump probably will never understand no matter how clearly it's been explained many times already.
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Nothing is that simple - research who the GOP frontrunner was 100 days (or so) before the last few presidential primary races.
 
digsbe said:
Which poll said that? As it is now only roughly 27% of Republicans support him for the presidency. He may be "on top" but there are also many others in the race pulling votes from others. Carson, Fiorina, Rubio, Cruz, Bush, Kasich, etc. Once some start dropping I predict Trump's numbers won't look the same as many Republicans couldn't support him. Honestly I think he's the most disastrous out of all the candidates who pulls in low-information voters with fiery rhetoric.
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Trump is just as likely as McCain or Romney to win in a general election. ;)
 
clownboy said:
Trump is the most electable candidate for POTUS. It's that simple. Those who feel differently and are not republican or are just anti-Trump probably will never understand no matter how clearly it's been explained many times already.
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Why? He has some of the lowest favorability numbers in the general electorate, helped by the fact he has the lowest favorability numbers among Republican voters besides Jeb. He does worse in nearly every General election poll than each other Republican polled despite having better name recognition. And although we don't really have any test cases for Trump like candidates, I can't imagine voters, even those who may like some of the things he says, would ever vote for someone so quick to go to grade school insults. Especially when whatever Democrat will have the money to pound that in for six months.

I really don't see what he has going for him in a general election.
 
In the primaries he's the one, and that's going to persist. As for electability in the general, polling really won't show a clear picture until both parties have their nominee. Like it not there are still party line voters, a lot of them. So whomever is the candidate for their party will get their vote. Then there's the folks that just won't vote Hillary. From what I see Trump has a different set. The bunch that won't vote for Trump no matter what generally isn't going to vote for Hillary either.

Then there the fact that "independent" voters aren't what they were in 2000. There are a larger set of them that are disaffected republicans.
 
Anagram said:
Why? He has some of the lowest favorability numbers in the general electorate, helped by the fact he has the lowest favorability numbers among Republican voters besides Jeb. He does worse in nearly every General election poll than each other Republican polled despite having better name recognition. And although we don't really have any test cases for Trump like candidates, I can't imagine voters, even those who may like some of the things he says, would ever vote for someone so quick to go to grade school insults. Especially when whatever Democrat will have the money to pound that in for six months.

I really don't see what he has going for him in a general election.
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What he has going for him is that he is a Washington outsider and he doesn't have a D after his name. I am in frequent conversation with dedicated lefties who are so disillusioned with the Obama Administration and so suspicious of Hillary that they really believe they could vote for Trump. So the GOP who fear him could be offset by the Democrats who don't.
 
clownboy said:
In the primaries he's the one, and that's going to persist. As for electability in the general, polling really won't show a clear picture until both parties have their nominee. Like it not there are still party line voters, a lot of them. So whomever is the candidate for their party will get their vote. Then there's the folks that just won't vote Hillary. From what I see Trump has a different set. The bunch that won't vote for Trump no matter what generally isn't going to vote for Hillary either.

Then there the fact that "independent" voters aren't what they were in 2000. There are a larger set of them that are disaffected republicans.
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This is true. Not only has the independent group significantly grown as both major parties have disappointed it is, I believe, weighted more right than left. And a great many people who are registered Republican do not identify with the party as Republicans but describe themselves as independent. But the Democrats cannot count on many votes from this merged group.
 
clownboy said:
Trump is the most electable candidate for POTUS. It's that simple. Those who feel differently and are not republican or are just anti-Trump probably will never understand no matter how clearly it's been explained many times already.
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Well if you used 2 syllable words we may understand. Give it a whirl?
 
This poll is about as relevant as all the early polling that has been going on. Basically, this poll finds that among Republicans, many who don't even give a flying **** at this point, Trump seems to be the most talked about candidate so, ipso-facto, Trump must be the most electable.

When the serious business starts, when serious primary voters start thinking things through, and when they consider whether or not they want to win the White House, Trump will be nowhere in sight. He'll be the Howard Dean and the Herman Cain of 2015/16.

And I do find it funny that the Republicans would consider a nominee that, in the case of Trump to a large extent, and Carson to a lesser extent, bad mouths and repudiates almost everything that Republicans have worked on and stood for over the years. It's like a session in self-flagellation. I'm betting it doesn't last too long. The fact that Carson has overtaken Trump in a few polls is proof of that and as Carson gets under the spotlight, his halo will also be tarnished.
 
CanadaJohn said:
This poll is about as relevant as all the early polling that has been going on. Basically, this poll finds that among Republicans, many who don't even give a flying **** at this point, Trump seems to be the most talked about candidate so, ipso-facto, Trump must be the most electable.

When the serious business starts, when serious primary voters start thinking things through, and when they consider whether or not they want to win the White House, Trump will be nowhere in sight. He'll be the Howard Dean and the Herman Cain of 2015/16.

And I do find it funny that the Republicans would consider a nominee that, in the case of Trump to a large extent, and Carson to a lesser extent, bad mouths and repudiates almost everything that Republicans have worked on and stood for over the years. It's like a session in self-flagellation. I'm betting it doesn't last too long. The fact that Carson has overtaken Trump in a few polls is proof of that and as Carson gets under the spotlight, his halo will also be tarnished.
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But Trump has knocked others off their game and some away from stated positions.
 
JANFU said:
Well if you used 2 syllable words we may understand. Give it a whirl?
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Been there, done that, in the many hate Trump threads thus far. If you're not getting it by now, something about trying the same thing over and over again expecting a different result. :mrgreen:
 
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clownboy said:
Been there, done that, in the many hate Trump threads thus far. If you're not getting it by now, something about trying the same thing over and over again expecting a different result. :mrgreen:
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Call it my Sunday morning humor day.
 
I agree that Trump is the most electable Republican.

The Republican electorate is based on 3 things:
Fear
Hatred
Ignorance

Trump rallies all of the ones who are motivated by Hatred more than anything we have ever seen.
And Trump rallies the ignorant.
He does this while also not offending the Fearful.

But additionally Trump will also add to the base many Ignorant Democrats and Independents as well.
Essentially, anyone who watches and believes Pro Wrestling is real or lives in a mobile home, will all rally behind Donald Trump.

Without Trump, Republicans just don't stand a chance because while it might be reasonably close in polls, the haters and the trailer trash just wont turn out at the ballot box for Carson.
 
LowDown said:
In a recent poll, 70% of Republicans thought Trump was the most electable candidate for President. This is best accounted for by the fact that:
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I guess people have not learned from the present Mr Change that a certain amount of experience is quite helpful in a President.
 
A Trump vs. Clinton general is a fairly simple race to call.

Women are going to vote Clinton overwhelmingly. Trump doesn't even pretend not to be a misogynist.

It's a win win, as they get to empower a woman and reject a sexist.

That would be true to some extent against any male opponent, but Trump comes across as the living embodiment male oppression.
 
JANFU said:
But Trump has knocked others off their game and some away from stated positions.
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The field is still far larger than it will be when it matters most. Trump likes to act the bully - that feeds into many Americans perception of themselves as strong and, basically, bullies of the world. Eventually, however, if you bully everyone you're left with few friends. Trump might be a factor for a little while longer but he's not a force to worry about. He's a very vain man and as he sees himself losing he'll get more reckless and then as he sees he's going to lose he'll find some excuse to leave the race and still claim he could have won but circumstances got in his way. And then he'll go back to sucking up to the Clintons.
 
So, my llaptop usually does not covers the entire title of most threads:

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I choose to go to Google and it sort of completed the sentence for me:

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