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Thread: What Part of the Constitution Would you change?

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    Re: What Part of the Constitution Would you change?

    Quote Originally Posted by Harshaw View Post
    I would also repeal the 17th Amendment and return selection of the Senators to the state legislatures.
    It was the single worst change from the original concepts of the founding fathers.

    It would curtail federal mandates on the states. It would contain the federal government form encroaching state authority. It would take the money and the politics out of the Senate since they would not "campaign" for the office. In my state I would push to give the governor a vote in the selection. Say you have 30 state legislators, give the governors office five votes in the tally, not enough to control but enough to have some influence so that the Senator is also responsible to the governors office. Let each state decide that on their own.
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    Re: What Part of the Constitution Would you change?

    Quote Originally Posted by FallingPianos View Post
    I'm not sure what the most eloquent and concise way of saying it would be, but I'd like it to cover things such womens rights during pregnancy and childbirth, circumcision (or other cosmetic surgery) of minors, organ donation, etc.
    Bodily Sovereignty is a desperately make up concept based solely on the desire to enshrine abortion into the constitution.

    It would mean we could sell our body parts if we wanted to and legalize prostitution, and might even make it unconstitutional to put anyones body in jail or under any other type of sanction, that would violate the sovereignty of it.

    Just so precious abortion is constitutionally enshrined.
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    Re: What Part of the Constitution Would you change?

    Quote Originally Posted by Stinger View Post
    Bodily Sovereignty is a desperately make up concept based solely on the desire to enshrine abortion into the constitution.

    It would mean we could sell our body parts if we wanted to and legalize prostitution, and might even make it unconstitutional to put anyones body in jail or under any other type of sanction, that would violate the sovereignty of it.

    Just so precious abortion is constitutionally enshrined.
    abortion gets the headlines and makes people angry. people argue about abortion so much that other bodily sovereignty issues get completely ignored. for example, many hospitals across the country have policies that forbid women who have had previous C-sections from giving birth vaginally. they are told that they are required to have a second surgery. and its completely legal to perform unnecessary cosmetic surgery on children. there are a lot of reasons why such an amendment is necessary, and yes, abortion is one of them.

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    Re: What Part of the Constitution Would you change?

    Quote Originally Posted by FallingPianos View Post
    abortion gets the headlines and makes people angry. people argue about abortion so much that other bodily sovereignty issues get completely ignored. for example, many hospitals across the country have policies that forbid women who have had previous C-sections from giving birth vaginally. they are told that they are required to have a second surgery. and its completely legal to perform unnecessary cosmetic surgery on children. there are a lot of reasons why such an amendment is necessary, and yes, abortion is one of them.
    None of those reasons require a constitutional amendment, but do you really want government telling doctors and hospital what procedures they must do in spite of their own medical decisions and the state can regulate at what age a child can or cannot get an elective surgery with the parents permission but only in the most extreme cases, else the parent decides what is necessary and unnecessary and a constitutional amendment wouldn't have any effect on those issues anyway.
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    Re: What Part of the Constitution Would you change?

    Quote Originally Posted by FallingPianos View Post
    for example, many hospitals across the country have policies that forbid women who have had previous C-sections from giving birth vaginally. they are told that they are required to have a second surgery.
    In most cases it is the OB that requires the c-sec. There is a possibility of a uterus rupture in VBACs and most OBs are concerned about being sued if a VBAC goes bad.

    I would not be surprised if the OB was blaming the hospital. If a woman wants a VBAC she should find another OB that is willing to take the chance. If it really is the hospital, she can find a different hospital.

    Trying to put these kind of decisions, that change as the technology and best practices change, into the Constitution sounds like pure folly.

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    Re: What Part of the Constitution Would you change?

    Quote Originally Posted by aquapub View Post
    Of course you would. Liberals are pretty much always the ones willing to throw the 1st Amendment under the bus the moment it gets in their way.
    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    I would change the first amendment to remove some of the loopholes like saying burning and American Flag is speech when in reality it has nothing to do with speech..........

    Guess you're wrong, aquapub.
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    This is what I hate about politics the most, it turns people in snobbish egotistical self righteous dicks who allow their political beliefs, partisan attitudes, and 'us vs. them' mentality, to force them to deny reality.

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    Re: What Part of the Constitution Would you change?

    There are a couple of amendments I would alter or eliminate because of my personal feelings and/or beliefs. However, the national ramifications of these changes would be huge, and though I disagree with parts of the Constitution, my changes, though in my best interests, would not be in the best interests of the country as a whole. Leave it the way it is...it works pretty good to me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wiseone View Post
    This is what I hate about politics the most, it turns people in snobbish egotistical self righteous dicks who allow their political beliefs, partisan attitudes, and 'us vs. them' mentality, to force them to deny reality.

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    You can't paint everone with the same brush.......It does not work tht way.


    Quote Originally Posted by Wessexman View Post
    See with you around Captain we don't even have to make arguments, as you already know everything .
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    Re: What Part of the Constitution Would you change?

    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainCourtesy View Post
    Guess you're wrong, aquapub.
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    mad Re: What Part of the Constitution Would you change?

    REPEAL the SIXTEENTH amendment, of course.

    If you don't know what that is, it's the INCOME TAX.

    How did it ever get ratified in the first place?????

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    Re: What Part of the Constitution Would you change?

    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainCourtesy View Post
    Guess you're wrong, aquapub.
    I did not say throw the first amendment out, I said get rid of some of the loopholes that leftys like you take advantage of to circumvent the definition.........
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