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Thread: What Part of the Constitution Would you change?

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    Re: What Part of the Constitution Would you change?

    The problem is that if we interpret the first amendment as Aquapub does, that means that any symbolic speech isn't included. After all, a picture isn't "speech", so wouldn't be covered. A yellow ribbon isn't "speech". If we follow that logic, then we cut out a huge majority of political statement. If you think I'm wring, aquapub, please explain why flagburning isn't covered but a yellow ribbon is.

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    Re: What Part of the Constitution Would you change?

    Quote Originally Posted by aquapub View Post
    Setting things on fire, either way, is not protected by the Constitution as speech.
    And yet I can burn my garbage and start campfires. As he said above, if you ban the burning of a flag, you'd have to ban the burning of everything to remain logically consistent.

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    Re: What Part of the Constitution Would you change?

    Quote Originally Posted by rivrrat View Post
    And yet I can burn my garbage and start campfires. As he said above, if you ban the burning of a flag, you'd have to ban the burning of everything to remain logically consistent.
    What if a flag is garbage...
    When should I be able to burn the flag?

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    Re: What Part of the Constitution Would you change?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kandahar View Post
    Working with my congressional allies, I pass a law that says people can't express dissent near any major road, but if they want to express their dissent on in suburban neighborhoods, they're welcome to. Is this constitutional in Aquapub-world?
    OK an interstate highway is a major road. Do you believe people have a right to express their "dissent" by shutting down interstate highways thus blocking other citizens from engaging in their private lawful business?

    Do you believe citizens have a right to carry out their private lawful business without interference from other citizens even if those citizens are practicing their right to "dissent"?

    The right to assembly is the right to "peacefully assemble", is mounting a protest, I mean a dissent, which shuts down commerce in the business district of a city "peaceful assembly"?
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    Re: What Part of the Constitution Would you change?

    Quote Originally Posted by Caine View Post
    What if a flag is garbage...
    When should I be able to burn the flag?
    Anytime you please.

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    Re: What Part of the Constitution Would you change?

    I would make everyone who wants to vote pass a test each election which indicated they understood the issues.

    I would make it mandatory that every TV, radio, newspaper, magazine or internet news service submit DAILY copies, in their entirety, of ONE primetime news cast or front page to be graded by an independent 3rd party for truthiness.

    And any organization falling below a certain level of truthiness would be unable to have inside or behind the scene or exclusive access to official government news sources or stories for a year.

    I would make it mandatory that EVERYONE at online forums be identified by age and country from where their drivers license or ID card or passport or current citizenship papers are issued.

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    Re: What Part of the Constitution Would you change?

    Quote Originally Posted by bhkad View Post
    I would make everyone who wants to vote pass a test each election which indicated they understood the issues.

    I would make it mandatory that every TV, radio, newspaper, magazine or internet news service submit DAILY copies, in their entirety, of ONE primetime news cast or front page to be graded by an independent 3rd party for truthiness.

    And any organization falling below a certain level of truthiness would be unable to have inside or behind the scene or exclusive access to official government news sources or stories for a year.

    I would make it mandatory that EVERYONE at online forums be identified by age and country from where their drivers license or ID card or passport or current citizenship papers are issued.

    Wow; Hitler, Goebbels, Stalin would love you.

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    Re: What Part of the Constitution Would you change?

    Quote Originally Posted by winston53660 View Post
    Wow; Hitler, Goebbels, Stalin would love you.
    I know Mrs. R.J. Reynolds loved me long time last night, Winston.

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    Re: What Part of the Constitution Would you change?

    Quote Originally Posted by Stinger View Post
    OK an interstate highway is a major road. Do you believe people have a right to express their "dissent" by shutting down interstate highways thus blocking other citizens from engaging in their private lawful business?

    Do you believe citizens have a right to carry out their private lawful business without interference from other citizens even if those citizens are practicing their right to "dissent"?

    The right to assembly is the right to "peacefully assemble", is mounting a protest, I mean a dissent, which shuts down commerce in the business district of a city "peaceful assembly"?
    Yes, just like the Boston Tea Party. They didn't stop traffic...

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    Re: What Part of the Constitution Would you change?

    Quote Originally Posted by bhkad View Post
    I would make everyone who wants to vote pass a test each election which indicated they understood the issues.
    The problem with this is that "understand the issues" is so relative. I mean, there's usually different levels to the issue. Should someone only n eed to know the basic idea of a candidate's energy plan, or will they have to know the small nitty gritty? Should it be all issues, or only the "important" ones. I for one would be at a loss to tell you my state senator's stance on water distribution. Who determines what's important? And what if someone doesn't care about an issue, why should they have to know the stances on it? I see a lot of problems with that.

    I would make it mandatory that every TV, radio, newspaper, magazine or internet news service submit DAILY copies, in their entirety, of ONE primetime news cast or front page to be graded by an independent 3rd party for truthiness.

    And any organization falling below a certain level of truthiness would be unable to have inside or behind the scene or exclusive access to official government news sources or stories for a year.
    First of all, you're looking for the word "truthfullness" (i hope). Truthiness is something else entirely.

    So you would censor governmen employess to talking to certain reporters? I see problems with that. Especially since it wouldn't be hard for that "independant 3rd party" to be anything but. Not to mention, sometimes what's believed to be "true" is an evolving and changing concept, with new evidence coming out every day. It would also punish media for faulty sources. It wouldn't be hard for someone to feed a newspaper false information in an attempt to get them punished.

    I would make it mandatory that EVERYONE at online forums be identified by age and country from where their drivers license or ID card or passport or current citizenship papers are issued.
    That seems kinda weird. Why?

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