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What causes the school shootings?[W:462]

What causes the school shootings?

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chromium said:
um i don't like the dems they run against either, but i see the NRA as a soulless self-serving and cowardly ("stand your ground" laws are the most chicken**** laws that cater to paranoid schizos) enterprise totally irrespective of this or that politician.

and no involvement? Then i guess charleton heston appeared out of thin air less than a week after columbine. These kind of tactics only make the NRA hated more, and rightfully so
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translation-what really upsets you is the NRA not criminals so its understandable your solution is laws that harass the NRA rather than impede armed killers who don't obey laws anyway
 
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Mentally ill individuals who have fire arms. I believe we need to focus on treating the mentally ill, not passing feel good gun legislation, although I do support some gun control.
 
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David_N said:
Mentally ill individuals who have fire arms. I believe we need to focus on treating the mentally ill, not passing feel good gun legislation, although I do support some gun control.
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for example-what sort of legislation
 
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TurtleDude said:
translation-what really upsets you is the NRA not criminals so its understandable your solution is laws that harass the NRA rather than impede armed killers who don't obey laws anyway
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it's amazing you refuse to consider that both can be done - legal restraints as well as practical security measures. Both would've gone far in preventing most school shootings
 
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David_N said:
Are you referring to legislation people are trying to pass? Or what I support?
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the latter-you made reference to supporting some gun control laws
 
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chromium said:
it's amazing you refuse to consider that both can be done - legal restraints as well as practical security measures. Both would've gone far in preventing most school shootings
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the only gun law that could have prevented more deaths in school shootings was armed people available to confront the shooters

nothing else and I suspect you know that.
 
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TurtleDude said:
the latter-you made reference to supporting some gun control laws
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Background checks, banning of automatic weapons/chemical weapons/grenades.. common sense stuff.
 
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David_N said:
Mentally ill individuals who have fire arms. I believe we need to focus on treating the mentally ill, not passing feel good gun legislation, although I do support some gun control.
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half the NRA, particularly the paranoid schizos, would find themselves suddenly unable to own firearms then
 
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All Americans need to be open-carrying as with the Wild West after the Civil-ized War .
 
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David_N said:
Mentally ill individuals who have fire arms. I believe we need to focus on treating the mentally ill, not passing feel good gun legislation, although I do support some gun control.
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The current GOP/TEAts in DC have no intention of helping the mentally ill, especially our Veterans.

They can't even elect a Speaker, let alone govern .
 
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TurtleDude said:
the only gun law that could have prevented more deaths in school shootings was armed people available to confront the shooters

nothing else and I suspect you know that.
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according to you even practical security measures aren't an option because the killers can walk right into school and can't be disarmed, because they're legally allowed to

i know no such thing either, when the "semi" automatics were acquired at a gun show, not some illegally in some dark alley
 
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Common traits: young men, childhood learning and behavior problems, history of depression, coddling parent(s), few friends, no real goals in life, no skills, quiet and with drawn, feelings of rejection and revenge, obsessive behavior, ghoulish interests in death and violence, posing with weapons and posting online,....acting out a fantasy.


High School might play a large part in the cause of mental problems in some young people. HS is a very competitive and often brutal social environment that can leave a lot of young people feeling peer pressure, rejected, inferior, bullied, loss of self esteem, and even develop PTSD like symptoms. If left unchecked, those feelings can lead to suicide or continue into adulthood and manifest into suicidal violence. So perhaps the whole high school social thing needs rethinking since that seems to be where most teen/young adult angst begins.
 
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David_N said:
Background checks, banning of automatic weapons/chemical weapons/grenades.. common sense stuff.
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]\why should automatic weapons be banned when in 80 years there was only two crimes committed with legally owned ones

cops have them, why shouldn't other civilians

do you think cops have a greater right to shoot people than other civilians

the other stuff are not arms within the meaning of the second amendment but ordnance

how do background checks stop criminals given most criminals get guns from people who already know they are criminals and the brady bill did nothing to decrease crime
 
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chromium said:
according to you even practical security measures aren't an option because the killers can walk right into school and can't be disarmed, because they're legally allowed to

i know no such thing either, when the "semi" automatics were acquired at a gun show, not some illegally in some dark alley
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that's idiotic. schools should have armed adults available if need be

its people like you who create victim disarmament zones.

who acquired semi autos at gun shows? I have, but who are you complaining about
 
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NIMBY said:
The current GOP/TEAts in DC have no intention of helping the mentally ill, especially our Veterans.

They can't even elect a Speaker, let alone govern .
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that's diversionary silliness laced with DEMOCRAT HACKERY
 
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TurtleDude said:
that's idiotic. schools should have armed adults available if need be

its people like you who create victim disarmament zones.

who acquired semi autos at gun shows? I have, but who are you complaining about
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victim disarmament zones like schools? LOL, yeah let's have 2000 angst ridden teenagers and gangs like trenchcoat mafia packing heat in the hallways and see those dropout and murder rates skyrocket

or disarmament zones like the courtroom you used to work at? Oh, excuse me, except for the armed guard who, in some courts, has had their own gun taken and used as a weapon

or maybe churches and bars that, due to the nature of their business, *choose* to not allow guns?

people like you and the NRA want every psychotic (i.e., most of the NRA) to carry as much deadly force as possible and just cross fingers and hope someone will stop them from using it to murder, hopefully a mythical gun owner who is not insane and just happens to be at the scene
 
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Moot said:
Common traits: young men, childhood learning and behavior problems, history of depression, coddling parent(s), few friends, no real goals in life, no skills, quiet and with drawn, feelings of rejection and revenge, obsessive behavior, ghoulish interests in death and violence, posing with weapons and posting online,....acting out a fantasy.


High School might play a large part in the cause of mental problems in some young people. HS is a very competitive and often brutal social environment that can leave a lot of young people feeling peer pressure, rejected, inferior, bullied, loss of self esteem, and even develop PTSD like symptoms. If left unchecked, those feelings can lead to suicide or continue into adulthood and manifest into suicidal violence. So perhaps the whole high school social thing needs rethinking since that seems to be where most teen/young adult angst begins.
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i'm all in favor of shuttering high schools across the country for these reasons, but it's crazy to think that guns have nothing to do with 1-2 teenagers killing a dozen or more. Somehow i think that's part of the equation too
 
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TurtleDude said:
that's diversionary silliness laced with DEMOCRAT HACKERY
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Why do you think GOP/TEAt/NRA infidels believe that secretaries should be gunned down first, since they are the ones to let visitors in ?
 
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TurtleDude said:
translation-what really upsets you is the NRA not criminals so its understandable your solution is laws that harass the NRA rather than impede armed killers who don't obey laws anyway
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:thumbs::thumbs:
 
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chromium said:
victim disarmament zones like schools? LOL, yeah let's have 2000 angst ridden teenagers and gangs like trenchcoat mafia packing heat in the hallways and see those dropout and murder rates skyrocket

or disarmament zones like the courtroom you used to work at? Oh, excuse me, except for the armed guard who, in some courts, has had their own gun taken and used as a weapon

or maybe churches and bars that, due to the nature of their business, *choose* to not allow guns?

people like you and the NRA want every psychotic (i.e., most of the NRA) to carry as much deadly force as possible and just cross fingers and hope someone will stop them from using it to murder, hopefully a mythical gun owner who is not insane and just happens to be at the scene
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who ever said anything about people who are not legally old enough to pack pistols packing them. another straw man you have created

WHAT PART OF ARMED ADULTS are you unable to comprehend? does that mean TEENAGERS in your environment?

your rage at the NRA is pathetic. You attribute positions to the NRA that do not exist because again, you are foaming in hatred over the politicians the NRA supports.

and your hysterical claims that most of the NRA are psychotics continue to prove your position on GUN CONTROL is not to control criminals but rather to harass NRA members because you don't like our politics or more likely our PERCEIVED politics
 
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chromium said:
i'm all in favor of shuttering high schools across the country for these reasons, but it's crazy to think that guns have nothing to do with 1-2 teenagers killing a dozen or more. Somehow i think that's part of the equation too
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Try teaching in a high school with open campus for lunch where all doors are supposed to remain locked but many are propped open.

That's the fault of gun-banners dontchaknow ?
 
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chromium said:
i'm all in favor of shuttering high schools across the country for these reasons, but it's crazy to think that guns have nothing to do with 1-2 teenagers killing a dozen or more. Somehow i think that's part of the equation too
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you already have shown your slip on this issue and its a seething hatred of the NRA. nothing you say about guns can be distanced from the fact that "Bash the NRA" is what motivates you
 
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