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Do you support the arson of a washington Planned Parenthood?[W:187]

Do you support the arson of a washington Planned Parenthood?


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Re: Do you support the arson of a washington Planned Parenthood?

I didn't use the word "murder."

No, just "baby killers" over and over. :shrug:

I'm just letting you know that your "belief" isn't even valid as a matter of opinion or faith, it's just objectively wrong.

No, it is "subjectively" wrong...i.e. in YOUR opinion and among those who share it.

Were it "Objectively" wrong, no one, including myself, would support it.
 
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Re: Do you support the arson of a washington Planned Parenthood?

No, just "baby killers" over and over. :shrug:

I haven't said those precise words either.

Stop lying and you might stop being wrong so much.

No, it is "subjectively" wrong...i.e. in YOUR opinion and among those who share it.

Were it "Objectively" wrong, no one, including myself, would support it.

No, it is entirely possible for people like yourself to believe something which is objectively false. In this case, it is not only possible, it has happened.

It is not my opinion that the lifespan of an animal begins at fertilization - that is scientific fact. Your belief is counterfactual; it is simply not valid.
 
Re: Do you support the arson of a washington Planned Parenthood?

Well, I am certainly not displeased when bad things happen to abortionists and their organizations.

They all belong in prison, though, not dead by a vigilante's hand.

remind me how society would be better off if women who aborted their fetuses were in jail

remind me why we would be better off that every time a woman miscarries that would result in a coroner's inquest and perhaps a police investigation

remind me why most of the people protesting at clinics and screaming insults at the women going into the clinics are MEN


Remind me why most of the prosecutions of arsonists attacking clinics are MEN
 
Re: Do you support the arson of a washington Planned Parenthood?

remind me how society would be better off if women who aborted their fetuses were in jail

Sure, I'm happy to remind you that dangerous scumbags who frequently kill again - as is the case here, even by Guttmacher statistics - have a harder time doing so when you put them in prison.

remind me why we would be better off that every time a woman miscarries that would result in a coroner's inquest and perhaps a police investigation

Not every natural death gets investigated by a ME for the born; not sure why you think it would need to be for the unborn for abortion to be illegal.

Probably because you're just so lazy you're comfortable relying on straw man fallacies and you think they'll hold up.

remind me why most of the people protesting at clinics and screaming insults at the women going into the clinics are MEN

Anecdotal. I'm quite sure I haven't spent as much time anywhere near one of those vile little ****holes as you have.

Remind me why most of the prosecutions of arsonists attacking clinics are MEN

I'm sure you have theories. I'm just as sure I don't give a damn what they are.
 
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Sure, I'm be happy to remind you that dangerous scumbags who frequently kill again, as is the case here, have a harder time doing so when you put them in prison.



Not every natural death gets investigated by a ME for the born; not sure why you think it would need to be for the unborn for abortion to be illegal. Probably because you're just so lazy you're comfortable relying on straw man arguments.



Anecdotal. I'm quite sure I haven't spent as much time anywhere near one of those vile little ****holes as you have.



I'm sure you have theories. I'm just as sure I don't give a damn what they are.

So a woman who has an abortion is to you-a serial murderer? this level of extremism from the anti abortion fringe is really frightening. My theory? most of the men who want to ban abortion-especially those who abuse verbally-or worse the women going into clinics (for whatever reason including to get birth control or pap smears) or those who engage in criminal violence, have serious mental infirmities that cause them to want to control every aspect of women's lives.


Those who abuse these women don't give a damn about "innocent human life" nor are they "Good Christians". They are mainly mentally unbalanced haters who are the ones who really ought to be in prison-not some 16 year old girl who gets knocked up and wants to terminate the pregnancy
 
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So a woman who has an abortion is to you-a serial murderer?

It's hard to be a serial murderer when you have only killed one human being. See that word "serial?" It has a meaning.

But statistics do bear out that roughly half of these homicides involve recidivism; i.e. a mother who has already killed one offspring and is now killing a second. Or third. Or fourth.

And of course, the contract killer and his staff, well they certainly kill a lot of human beings over and over again but you technically wouldn't call them "serial killers" since they're killing for money. Hence the term "contract killer."

this level of extremism from the anti abortion fringe is really frightening.

I'm happy you're frightened. People who support this vile organization should be.

My theory? most of the men who want to ban abortion... have serious mental infirmities

Funny how your "theory" is just you trolling any man who disagrees with you.
 
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It's hard to be a serial murderer when you have only killed one human being. See that word "serial?" It has a meaning.

But statistics do bear out that roughly half of these homicides involve recidivism; i.e. a mother who has already killed one offspring and is now killing a second. Or third. Or fourth.



I'm happy you're frightened. People who support this vile organization should be.



Funny how your "theory" is just you trolling any man who disagrees with you.

I find those who support violence against women's clinics to be just as bad as the jihadist scum that blow up people in marketplaces. I am not frightened of anti abortion extremists, but I worry for the innocent people in them that those nutcases might try to harm

the anti abortion vigilantes sound like the nonsense we heard during vier-nam-Destroying a village to save it and crap like that. I tell women going to those clinics to get CCWs since they might be attacked by enraged men who see abortion as some sort of surrogate castration and rage against their own impotence
 
Re: Do you support the arson of a washington Planned Parenthood?

I find those who support violence against women's clinics

Well thankfully those folks are pretty uncommon.

I worry for the innocent people in them

Those folks are even more uncommon.

since they might be attacked by enraged men...

On the contrary, I think the protesters outside should proudly exercise the Second Amendment while they exercise their First Amendment right to free speech. They are, after all, dealing with the worst dregs of humanity, the sort of scum who would kill the innocent for personal gain. By definition, no one who would do that has any respect whatsoever for human rights and certainly has no compunction against aggressive violence. It's just wise to be prepared to defend oneself.
 
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Well thankfully those folks are pretty uncommon.



Those folks are even more uncommon.

so the women going for pap smears, std prevention, or other medical care are not innocent? you seem to think the only thing that goes on at those clinics is a production line of abortionists
my wife used to get birth control there (oh I forgot many anti abortion types are against birth control too)

I'd escort here there before Ohio Passed CCW because I could carry and I did. this clinic had been firebombed by a nut case named Jonathan Broekhoeft. Years later, one of my colleagues sent his nutcase ass to federal prison
 
Re: Do you support the arson of a washington Planned Parenthood?

I don't care about whatever personal information you have to say.

For starters, it might be completely fabricated.

For seconds, my generalized criticism of anyone who works for (or volunteers for) that foul organization is just that, general. It doesn't go away just because someone with a username aligns with the group being condemned, nor does that general criticism. however harsh, become a personal attack.
 
Re: Do you support the arson of a washington Planned Parenthood?

Well thankfully those folks are pretty uncommon.

Those folks are even more uncommon.



On the contrary, I think the protesters outside should proudly exercise the Second Amendment while they exercise their First Amendment right to free speech. They are, after all, dealing with the worst dregs of humanity, the sort of scum who would kill the innocent for personal gain. By definition, no one who would do that has any respect whatsoever for human rights and certainly has no compunction against aggressive violence. It's just wise to be prepared to defend oneself.

No, they're not uncommon..in fact, they're typical...

"..A report released in February found that threats of harassment, intimidation, and violence against women’s health clinics have doubled since 2010. Reproductive rights advocates have raised concerns that radical anti-choice activists have been emboldened by a wave of GOP legislative attacks on reproductive rights.

Two acts of vandalism were seen in Louisiana last month. An unidentified person poured gasoline on a recently laid foundation and a security guard’s car at the construction site of the Planned Parenthood facility in New Orleans, and another person was arrested and charged with a hate crime for allegedly removing signs at an abortion clinic in Metairie, Louisiana.

There was an act of vandalism at the Jackson Women’s Health Organization in March, as an unidentified person destroyed some of the Mississippi clinic’s security cameras and a generator. Footage was captured of a person on the clinic property before the security cameras were destroyed.

All Families Healthcare, a family medicine and reproductive health-care facility in Kalispell, Montana, was severely vandalized in March of 2014.

Zachary Klundt, who has connections to an anti-choice group, was sentenced in June to five years in prison after he plead guilty in April to felony burglary, criminal mischief, and theft..."​
Planned Parenthood Arson Latest in Series of Violent Acts Against Clinics
 
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No, they're not uncommon..in fact, they're typical...

"..A report released in February found that threats of harassment, intimidation, and violence against women’s health clinics have doubled since 2010. Reproductive rights advocates have raised concerns that radical anti-choice activists have been emboldened by a wave of GOP legislative attacks on reproductive rights.

Two acts of vandalism were seen in Louisiana last month. An unidentified person poured gasoline on a recently laid foundation and a security guard’s car at the construction site of the Planned Parenthood facility in New Orleans, and another person was arrested and charged with a hate crime for allegedly removing signs at an abortion clinic in Metairie, Louisiana.

There was an act of vandalism at the Jackson Women’s Health Organization in March, as an unidentified person destroyed some of the Mississippi clinic’s security cameras and a generator. Footage was captured of a person on the clinic property before the security cameras were destroyed.

All Families Healthcare, a family medicine and reproductive health-care facility in Kalispell, Montana, was severely vandalized in March of 2014.

Zachary Klundt, who has connections to an anti-choice group, was sentenced in June to five years in prison after he plead guilty in April to felony burglary, criminal mischief, and theft..."​
Planned Parenthood Arson Latest in Series of Violent Acts Against Clinics

So, as noted, pretty uncommon then.

Also, it's not that I don't trust your biased as **** link that calls anti-abortion folks "anti-choice" and calls pro-aborts "reproductive rights advocates", it's just that I really, really don't trust your biased as **** link.
 
Re: Do you support the arson of a washington Planned Parenthood?

So, as noted, pretty uncommon then.

Lies, fraud, theft, threats, harassment, intimidation, vandalism, arson, terrorism and murder is quite common for zealot extremists and anti-abortionists are no exception.
 
Re: Do you support the arson of a washington Planned Parenthood?

Lies, fraud, threats, harassment, intimidation, vandalism, arson, and murder is quite common for zealot extremists and anti-abortionists are no exception.


It's interesting that you say that given that pro-abortionists would have to count among them the perpetrators of the mass homicide of millions upon millions.

If your statistics don't bear out that undeniable reality, they're not of much use.
 
Re: Do you support the arson of a washington Planned Parenthood?

It's interesting that you say that given that pro-abortionists would have to count among them the perpetrators of the mass homicide of millions upon millions.

If your statistics don't bear out that undeniable reality, they're not of much use.

what mass homicides?
 
Re: Do you support the arson of a washington Planned Parenthood?

It's interesting that you say that given that pro-abortionists would have to count among them the perpetrators of the mass homicide of millions upon millions.

If your statistics don't bear out that undeniable reality, they're not of much use.

So you do support the arson of the PP clinic. Interesting.
 
Re: Do you support the arson of a washington Planned Parenthood?

what mass homicides?

:roll:

So you do support the arson of the PP clinic.

Nope. See post #18, or the same sentiment said by various people throughout the thread (#16, etc).

It'd be nice if you would refrain from inflammatory lies, thanks.
 
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:roll:



Nope. See post #18, or the same sentiment said by various people throughout the thread (#16, etc).

It'd be nice if you would refrain from inflammatory lies, thanks.

such as calling legal abortions of fetuses "homicides"?
 
Re: Do you support the arson of a washington Planned Parenthood?

such as calling legal abortions of fetuses "homicides"?

Add that one to the increasingly long list of words you don't know the meaning of. Kthx.
 
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such as calling legal abortions of fetuses "homicides"?

I respect your consistency on the subject.

However, it will be your GOP that shuts down the government----again .
 
Re: Do you support the arson of a washington Planned Parenthood?

I respect your consistency on the subject.

However, it will be your GOP that shuts down the government----again .

Thanks but I really don't know what that has to do with the planned parenthood arson NIMBY
 
Re: Do you support the arson of a washington Planned Parenthood?

Add that one to the increasingly long list of words you don't know the meaning of. Kthx.

we should compare our respective understandings of legal terms
 
Re: Do you support the arson of a washington Planned Parenthood?

Add that one to the increasingly long list of words you don't know the meaning of. Kthx.

Do you just pick and choose which decisions of the SCOTUS you'll obey ?
 
Re: Do you support the arson of a washington Planned Parenthood?

we should compare our respective understandings of legal terms

It would help, perhaps, if you knew basic things like Latin roots. Then you wouldn't ask such dumb questions... like whether or not the killing of a human being is the killing of a human being.
 
Re: Do you support the arson of a washington Planned Parenthood?

Do you just pick and choose which decisions of the SCOTUS you'll obey ?

Non sequitur much?
 
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