View Poll Results: Is the world fu**** up? Is there any hope left?

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  • Nope, its not

    13 23.64%
  • Nope, Im so stupid that I cannot see how idiotic things are

    2 3.64%
  • Nope, I like being a selfish and utterly stupid retard

    4 7.27%
  • The rest of the world is, American culture rules

    4 7.27%
  • Yes, obviously, look at us, we are pathetic beings

    5 9.09%
  • Yes, there is absolutely no hope

    3 5.45%
  • Yes, something needs to be done, people need to be enlightened

    21 38.18%
  • Yea, everything is just ****ed, including me

    3 5.45%
  • Something else.. explain..

    12 21.82%
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    Re: The world is fu**ed and utterly with no hope, or is it?

    Quote Originally Posted by Goobieman View Post
    Aside from the extraordinary lack of perspective...

    If not for the United States and its 'watch', you would be speaking Russian right now.
    Many Russians are hyper intelligent, and their language sounds far more intelligent than English for example.. I would love to be able to speak Russian..
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    Re: The world is fu**ed and utterly with no hope, or is it?

    Quote Originally Posted by Maximus Zeebra View Post
    True true true, you busted me here.. What I really meant to say was that life was completely different, and that life isnt necessarily better now... That life could be far more comfortable and advantureous in the past, and are way to predictable now.. I am saying also that the world now, isnt all that great, for most people it actually sucks big time, even in the rich world.. People in the US for example work all the time and have no hollidays(almost), but they can afford things, is that happiness? Is that much better than the past?
    I don't know where the hell you get this idea that things were more adventurous in the past. Almost no one except for the very rich traveled more than 5 miles away from the place of their birth? Adventurous? Hardly. Unpredictable? Every person knew they would go up to work the same ****ty job that their father did and hoped that maybe 1 of the 17 children they had would make it past age 5.

    Yes the world may suck right now, but this suck is 10000 times better than the suck 200 years ago.

    Many things were better before, many things are better now.. I am sim ply trying ti raise the possibility that things arent actually that much better now.. And in my opinions, most cities in the west are trashy, noisy, awful and horrible, and most people live in cities.. Just raising some points, but you are right in everything you said even so..
    What was better? Name one thing that was better! City life is horrible now, but it was, once again 10000 more horrible 200 years ago.

    You're clinging to a ridiculously romanticized notion of the past. Women, blacks, and white men who owned no property had absolutely no say in the running of their government. They lived on the subsistence of the bread they could get per day and were lucky to have more than one or two children live into adulthood. You're trying to raise a possibility that was dead before it got off the ground.
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    Re: The world is fu**ed and utterly with no hope, or is it?

    Quote Originally Posted by Maximus Zeebra View Post
    At least in Europe, you will die if you drink river water, or suffer horribly.. The air in cities are horrible... CARS? That is how it is more dangerous and noisy... I hate noise.. Do you like noise?
    What the hell are they doing drinking out of a river in this day and age? And even in the past rivers were a customary place to dump trash and feces. No wonder everyone died of typhus. And I'd prefer noise to piles of **** standing sitting on my doorstep.

    People had homes and food hundreds of years ago also..
    People shared a living room with their farm animals hundreds of years ago.

    About the freedom, it always depends on how you define freedoms... Economic freedom is one thing, but being stuck in a western lifestyle is an opposit thing... Being able to go on adventures and take risks was much more common in the old days than now, I consider that a freedom, to experience unpredictable adventures for youself rather than on TV... Things like this... It all depends how freedom is defined..
    No one went on adventures! Put down the fantasy books, Frodo! Only a very small minority of people travelled more than 5 or 10 miles away from the place of their birth!


    edit. in the end, humans arent created to sit on a chair in an office and watch a screen all day, like most people do in the "free" west.
    Go to Somalia. Ask someone if they would like to trade. I guarantee they would.
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    Re: The world is fu**ed and utterly with no hope, or is it?

    Quote Originally Posted by RightOfCenter View Post
    I don't know where the hell you get this idea that things were more adventurous in the past. Almost no one except for the very rich traveled more than 5 miles away from the place of their birth? Adventurous? Hardly. Unpredictable? Every person knew they would go up to work the same ****ty job that their father did and hoped that maybe 1 of the 17 children they had would make it past age 5.

    Yes the world may suck right now, but this suck is 10000 times better than the suck 200 years ago.



    What was better? Name one thing that was better! City life is horrible now, but it was, once again 10000 more horrible 200 years ago.

    You're clinging to a ridiculously romanticized notion of the past. Women, blacks, and white men who owned no property had absolutely no say in the running of their government. They lived on the subsistence of the bread they could get per day and were lucky to have more than one or two children live into adulthood. You're trying to raise a possibility that was dead before it got off the ground.
    I guess urbanization is the reason my opinion is like this.. Personally I prefer the countryside in most ways to cities, but I live in cities mostly. Even so, most people used to live in rural areas before while most live in urban areas now... Aside from this there are 6 billion people to share the world resources now, compared with only 800 million in 1800... IN Europe the population has about doubled in that time and increased squalor, while the population in the US and the people sharing land and resources in North America have increased from 7 million at that time to 400 million now.. Increasing population is in my opinion a bad thing...

    I would love for the population in Europe to decrease like people predict from now until 2050, nothing would increase living standards more than that...?...?..
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    Re: The world is fu**ed and utterly with no hope, or is it?

    Quote Originally Posted by RightOfCenter View Post
    What the hell are they doing drinking out of a river in this day and age? And even in the past rivers were a customary place to dump trash and feces. No wonder everyone died of typhus. And I'd prefer noise to piles of **** standing sitting on my doorstep.


    People shared a living room with their farm animals hundreds of years ago.


    No one went on adventures! Put down the fantasy books, Frodo! Only a very small minority of people travelled more than 5 or 10 miles away from the place of their birth!




    Go to Somalia. Ask someone if they would like to trade. I guarantee they would.
    I agree with you yes, but in Europe life was quite prosperous hundreds of years ago..
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    Re: The world is fu**ed and utterly with no hope, or is it?

    Quote Originally Posted by RightOfCenter View Post
    I don't know where the hell you get this idea that things were more adventurous in the past.
    I guess, because you didnt have anything to loose before, but now you have stability to loose by taking up adventerous ways..
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    Re: The world is fu**ed and utterly with no hope, or is it?

    Quote Originally Posted by Maximus Zeebra View Post
    At least in Europe, you will die if you drink river water, or suffer horribly.. The air in cities are horrible... CARS? That is how it is more dangerous and noisy... I hate noise.. Do you like noise?

    People had homes and food hundreds of years ago also..


    About the freedom, it always depends on how you define freedoms... Economic freedom is one thing, but being stuck in a western lifestyle is an opposit thing... Being able to go on adventures and take risks was much more common in the old days than now, I consider that a freedom, to experience unpredictable adventures for youself rather than on TV... Things like this... It all depends how freedom is defined..

    edit. in the end, humans arent created to sit on a chair in an office and watch a screen all day, like most people do in the "free" west.
    Only the very rich could afford to go on "adventures".....where did you study history? Certainly it seems that you studied it nowhere...
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    Re: The world is fu**ed and utterly with no hope, or is it?

    Quote Originally Posted by UtahBill View Post
    Only the very rich could afford to go on "adventures".....where did you study history? Certainly it seems that you studied it nowhere...
    LOTS of poor people left their families and homes because condition were so poor at home and oppertunities limited.. That was certainly the biggest group of movers, the middle class the smallest and the upper class second to the very poorest...

    Remember, America was created in this way, migration to America was mainly poor people.. Where did you study history? No need to come with such questions, just debate things and refrain from personal attacks, please?
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    Re: The world is fu**ed and utterly with no hope, or is it?

    Quote Originally Posted by Maximus Zeebra View Post
    LOTS of poor people left their families and homes because condition were so poor at home and oppertunities limited.. That was certainly the biggest group of movers, the middle class the smallest and the upper class second to the very poorest...
    and where did they go? how did they get the funds to go there? selling themselves into indentured servitude was one way. There wasn't much middle class. You were a rich person, a peasant, or a tradesman.
    About a million Irish came here during the potato famine, and they did have it better here in the USA than back home, but it wasn't adventure that motivated them. It was starvation. While they starved, the British insisted on food exports from Ireland to England. Estimates vary, but the guess is that about a million starved to death. There is ample reason for the Irish to still hate the British...
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    Re: The world is fu**ed and utterly with no hope, or is it?

    Quote Originally Posted by Maximus Zeebra View Post
    Its pathetic to see the direction the world is taking and the worst of it has happened during Americas "watch"..
    Unique concept here; it's called national sovereignty.

    Your country. Your government. Your responsibility.

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