View Poll Results: Is the world fu**** up? Is there any hope left?

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  • Nope, its not

    13 23.64%
  • Nope, Im so stupid that I cannot see how idiotic things are

    2 3.64%
  • Nope, I like being a selfish and utterly stupid retard

    4 7.27%
  • The rest of the world is, American culture rules

    4 7.27%
  • Yes, obviously, look at us, we are pathetic beings

    5 9.09%
  • Yes, there is absolutely no hope

    3 5.45%
  • Yes, something needs to be done, people need to be enlightened

    21 38.18%
  • Yea, everything is just ****ed, including me

    3 5.45%
  • Something else.. explain..

    12 21.82%
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    Re: The world is fu**ed and utterly with no hope, or is it?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    Why the hell is it our watch? Take care of your own damned ****.
    It was your watch because everyone else was screwed after the second world war.. I believe your watch is over now tho!
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    Re: The world is fu**ed and utterly with no hope, or is it?

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    Think of America as management. And Europe as the employees. The employees CAN bring up what they think is wrong and how to fix it. But they don't. So when management comes up with a new idea. All that the employees do is complain. What we have here is a situation of Europeans being the disgruntled employees of America.
    You have to remember that Europe was completely broken after the second world war, the US was not, they came out stronger than before the war. Europeans just see things in different ways than America, and even tho we are allies we can still disagree that we agree and disagree, yes, agreed?
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    Re: The world is fu**ed and utterly with no hope, or is it?

    Quote Originally Posted by scourge99 View Post
    If you believe the world is ****ed up now then you really need to read more history. Human life has been consistently getting better. There's no guarantee that such will continue but the trend is overwhelmingly positive.
    People are loosing their jobs, the economy is balancing on a thin line that can end in total collapse, the fundamentals of our economies are very weak compared with the free market part of the economy, meaning we arent actually creating real values, but papervalues, our fundamentals havent ever declined so fast in the modern world as they are right now, and on side of that the free markets are also partly collapsing..
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    Re: The world is fu**ed and utterly with no hope, or is it?

    Quote Originally Posted by scourge99 View Post
    If you believe the world is ****ed up now then you really need to read more history. Human life has been consistently getting better. There's no guarantee that such will continue but the trend is overwhelmingly positive.
    Why is human life better now than it was in say 1802? The squalor factor of life should matter, and in England for example human life is constantly getting worse as more and more people inhibit a small country. What is actually better in England now, for an average middle class person than it was in the same place 200 or even 400 years ago? They had more freedom then, people worked for themself independently instead of slaving for companies, they had plenty of space, fresh air, calm cities, relative cleanliness and so fourth..

    Just because you have electronic devices now doesnt mean life is better than it was before, it might actually be poorer as a result..
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    Re: The world is fu**ed and utterly with no hope, or is it?

    Quote Originally Posted by scourge99 View Post
    Whats worse now than 50 years ago? How about 200 years ago? How about 1000 years ago? 2000? 4000?
    Polluted drinking water, polluted air, noisy cities, dangerous cities just to mention a few.. Life has become very predictable for most the people in the western world, some would view this as the most negative factor of our development, in the past people was free in a very different ways.
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    Re: The world is fu**ed and utterly with no hope, or is it?

    Quote Originally Posted by Maximus Zeebra View Post
    What is actually better in England now, for an average middle class person than it was in the same place 200 or even 400 years ago? They had more freedom then, people worked for themself independently instead of slaving for companies, they had plenty of space, fresh air, calm cities, relative cleanliness and so fourth..
    You know nothing about historical conditions, do you? 200 years ago people were lucky to live to be 40. The average person was lucky to eat. Human excrement was piled in the streets. Coal was burned at an outstanding level for heat, causing the smog that London was so famous for.

    As for working for themselves, farmers in England worked at the sufferance of rich land owners. The Industrial revolution led to children as young as 5 working 16 hour days for almost no pay simply so their family could afford to have one meal a day.

    City calm? Muggings, murder, and rape were the norm.

    Max, you have no idea what you're talking about.
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    Re: The world is fu**ed and utterly with no hope, or is it?

    Quote Originally Posted by Maximus Zeebra View Post
    Polluted drinking water, polluted air, noisy cities, dangerous cities just to mention a few.. Life has become very predictable for most the people in the western world, some would view this as the most negative factor of our development, in the past people was free in a very different ways.
    I'd hate to beat a deab horse but you have no idea what you're talking about. I guess it's just one more addition to the "Things Maximus Zeebra Doesn't Understand" thread. In what modern country is drinking water polluted? How are cities more dangerous now than than even 50 years ago?

    As for life being predictable, if by predictable the average person can expect to live past 40 you're right. If you mean that the average person can expect to have a home, you're right again. If the average person can expect to eat three meals a day, bingo.

    Explain to me how people were more free 200 years ago than they are now. I bet you can't come up with one credible example.
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    Re: The world is fu**ed and utterly with no hope, or is it?

    Quote Originally Posted by Maximus Zeebra View Post
    Its pathetic to see the direction the world is taking and the worst of it has happened during Americas "watch"..
    Aside from the extraordinary lack of perspective...

    If not for the United States and its 'watch', you would be speaking Russian right now.

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    Re: The world is fu**ed and utterly with no hope, or is it?

    Quote Originally Posted by RightOfCenter View Post
    You know nothing about historical conditions, do you? 200 years ago people were lucky to live to be 40. The average person was lucky to eat. Human excrement was piled in the streets. Coal was burned at an outstanding level for heat, causing the smog that London was so famous for.

    As for working for themselves, farmers in England worked at the sufferance of rich land owners. The Industrial revolution led to children as young as 5 working 16 hour days for almost no pay simply so their family could afford to have one meal a day.

    City calm? Muggings, murder, and rape were the norm.

    Max, you have no idea what you're talking about.
    True true true, you busted me here.. What I really meant to say was that life was completely different, and that life isnt necessarily better now... That life could be far more comfortable and advantureous in the past, and are way to predictable now.. I am saying also that the world now, isnt all that great, for most people it actually sucks big time, even in the rich world.. People in the US for example work all the time and have no hollidays(almost), but they can afford things, is that happiness? Is that much better than the past?

    Many things were better before, many things are better now.. I am sim ply trying ti raise the possibility that things arent actually that much better now.. And in my opinions, most cities in the west are trashy, noisy, awful and horrible, and most people live in cities.. Just raising some points, but you are right in everything you said even so..
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    Re: The world is fu**ed and utterly with no hope, or is it?

    Quote Originally Posted by RightOfCenter View Post
    I'd hate to beat a deab horse but you have no idea what you're talking about. I guess it's just one more addition to the "Things Maximus Zeebra Doesn't Understand" thread. In what modern country is drinking water polluted? How are cities more dangerous now than than even 50 years ago?

    As for life being predictable, if by predictable the average person can expect to live past 40 you're right. If you mean that the average person can expect to have a home, you're right again. If the average person can expect to eat three meals a day, bingo.

    Explain to me how people were more free 200 years ago than they are now. I bet you can't come up with one credible example.
    At least in Europe, you will die if you drink river water, or suffer horribly.. The air in cities are horrible... CARS? That is how it is more dangerous and noisy... I hate noise.. Do you like noise?

    People had homes and food hundreds of years ago also..


    About the freedom, it always depends on how you define freedoms... Economic freedom is one thing, but being stuck in a western lifestyle is an opposit thing... Being able to go on adventures and take risks was much more common in the old days than now, I consider that a freedom, to experience unpredictable adventures for youself rather than on TV... Things like this... It all depends how freedom is defined..


    edit. in the end, humans arent created to sit on a chair in an office and watch a screen all day, like most people do in the "free" west.
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