View Poll Results: Is the world fu**** up? Is there any hope left?

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  • Nope, its not

    13 23.64%
  • Nope, Im so stupid that I cannot see how idiotic things are

    2 3.64%
  • Nope, I like being a selfish and utterly stupid retard

    4 7.27%
  • The rest of the world is, American culture rules

    4 7.27%
  • Yes, obviously, look at us, we are pathetic beings

    5 9.09%
  • Yes, there is absolutely no hope

    3 5.45%
  • Yes, something needs to be done, people need to be enlightened

    21 38.18%
  • Yea, everything is just ****ed, including me

    3 5.45%
  • Something else.. explain..

    12 21.82%
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    Re: The world is fu**ed and utterly with no hope, or is it?

    Quote Originally Posted by Maximus Zeebra View Post
    Its pathetic to see the direction the world is taking and the worst of it has happened during Americas "watch"..
    Why the hell is it our watch? Take care of your own damned ****.
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    Re: The world is fu**ed and utterly with no hope, or is it?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    Why the hell is it our watch? Take care of your own damned ****.
    Think of America as management. And Europe as the employees. The employees CAN bring up what they think is wrong and how to fix it. But they don't. So when management comes up with a new idea. All that the employees do is complain. What we have here is a situation of Europeans being the disgruntled employees of America.
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    Re: The world is fu**ed and utterly with no hope, or is it?

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    Think of America as management. And Europe as the employees. The employees CAN bring up what they think is wrong and how to fix it. But they don't. So when management comes up with a new idea. All that the employees do is complain. What we have here is a situation of Europeans being the disgruntled employees of America.
    Perhaps it is time for a massive involuntary severance package (aka layoff)....
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    Re: The world is fu**ed and utterly with no hope, or is it?

    Quote Originally Posted by Maximus Zeebra View Post
    I believe this poll is very relevant for our times...
    If you believe the world is ****ed up now then you really need to read more history. Human life has been consistently getting better. There's no guarantee that such will continue but the trend is overwhelmingly positive.
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    Re: The world is fu**ed and utterly with no hope, or is it?

    Quote Originally Posted by scourge99 View Post
    If you believe the world is ****ed up now then you really need to read more history. Human life has been consistently getting better. There's no guarantee that such will continue but the trend is overwhelmingly positive.
    Just watching the TV shows about how people lived and what jobs they had to do only a few hundred years ago is proof that we are better off now.
    Sure we can do better, and we will, with occasional lapses, but the trend is positive.
    As for America's watch, what time span would that be? Would it include the 2world wars that europeans started, and we helped win?
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    Re: The world is fu**ed and utterly with no hope, or is it?

    Quote Originally Posted by scourge99 View Post
    If you believe the world is ****ed up now then you really need to read more history. Human life has been consistently getting better. There's no guarantee that such will continue but the trend is overwhelmingly positive.
    History is a story of ups and downs really, not consistent progress across all spheres. Some things get better and other worse at any point in time.
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    Re: The world is fu**ed and utterly with no hope, or is it?

    Quote Originally Posted by Wessexman View Post
    History is a story of ups and downs really, not consistent progress across all spheres. Some things get better and other worse at any point in time.
    Whats worse now than 50 years ago? How about 200 years ago? How about 1000 years ago? 2000? 4000?
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    Re: The world is fu**ed and utterly with no hope, or is it?

    Quote Originally Posted by scourge99 View Post
    Whats worse now than 50 years ago? How about 200 years ago? How about 1000 years ago? 2000? 4000?
    The overbearing state, the decline of community and localism, the decline of traditional associations, atomisation, pollution and over enviromental problems, suicide as Durkheim pointed out a century ago and still remains the cases for a start.

    The whig view of history is bogus and not very useful.
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    Re: The world is fu**ed and utterly with no hope, or is it?

    Quote Originally Posted by Wessexman View Post
    The overbearing state
    AS opposed to?

    Quote Originally Posted by Wessexman View Post
    the decline of community and localism
    Where are in the information age. There's even more community interaction its just on a broader scale.

    Quote Originally Posted by Wessexman View Post
    the decline of traditional associations
    Example?

    Quote Originally Posted by Wessexman View Post
    atomisation


    Quote Originally Posted by Wessexman View Post
    pollution and over enviromental problems
    True

    Quote Originally Posted by Wessexman View Post
    suicide as Durkheim pointed out a century ago and still remains the cases for a start.
    I'm not familiar with suicide rates.

    Quote Originally Posted by Wessexman View Post
    The whig view of history is bogus and not very useful.
    That why you have to read more than one book on the same subject.
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    Re: The world is fu**ed and utterly with no hope, or is it?

    Quote Originally Posted by scourge99 View Post
    AS opposed to?
    A less overbearing state.

    A current has many pluses I certainly agree. I do think that however we have lost some things or not replaced them well enough.




    Where are in the information age. There's even more community interaction its just on a broader scale.
    There is far less of what is real community interaction. The bonds of local community have declined greatly and the internet hardly makes up for it. I shudder to think of an age when it could.

    Example?
    Family, guilds/occupational associations, local community, church.

    With the decline of traditional intermediate associations like local community and family and their replacement with little or nothing men are more cut off from social interaction and association. Men are atomised, lively largley individually or in very small groups.

    Atomisation is not good for individuals and it necessitates they look elsewhere for the comforts that society once brought them from Evangelical religion to addiction and most obviously the overbearing state. Statism and atomism feed on each other.

    That why you have to read more than one book on the same subject.
    I've read many. I have found the progress is always good view is not usually associated with the best grip of history.
    Last edited by Wessexman; 11-25-08 at 12:58 AM.
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