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The world is fu**ed and utterly with no hope, or is it?

Is the world fu**** up? Is there any hope left?


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Its a shameful thing for us Europeans to see how little good Americans learned from the second world war and how much the bad Americans learned from it.

What are you talkig about now? First you act as if America started a world war then you go on to state how little America learned from your European civil war.


I can see it now, the collapse is almost final, when people just deny it and rant on in desperation.

Desperate? I'm not the one clinging to a notion that America is finished. You are gloating like a .....well....European. But like so many of your kind, you refuse to acknowledge that America always bounces back and moves forward better than ever. We don't stagnate and we don't strive for a fantasy.

Whats wrong with you? Are you unable to see the reality? Yes, our stock markets are also falling.. Britain yes its bankrupt, has been for a long time, but its an isolated case, aside from Italy which have been bankrupt for decades. Automobile industry? LOL, look at yours.. Our is fine, but reporting drops in revenues and profits from next year yes, your companies are already bankrupt. Most European car makers have had enormously good run and have tons of money to take from, especially the German car makers are incredibly wealthy. The drop in car sales in because of the financial crisis in the US, which is now of course spreading around the your main trading parter.

The "reality" is that America will climb out before Europe does because we went in first. America's troubles were obvious this year, Europe is projecting to go through much worse next year. But when we climb out, Europe will find itself floating on its own. And its about time. A re-invented car industry and banking practices will end the problem for us. Without Americans buying European goods, Europe will be faced with itself. It's the same all over. America is going through this because we let too many foriegners leach on to us. Our money goes out instead of inward.


Um...we don't. We simply chose to conduct business with you. We are a consumer based population and foreigners took advantage to make some money. This can easily change and will when we have gone through enough pain to realize it. America thrives when challenged. Our competitive spirit will emerge once again, but nations like yours will not fare well for it.

Leeches sucks blood.

Which is why you have been leeches for far too long. Once again...trying to use my point to describe us leeching on ourselves is pointless.


Terrorism will always be there just like drugs, unless everyone in the world has a damn good education and a damn good life.. Even then it will probably exist. Deal with it, we can. Dont go on killing sprees every time there is some terror attack. Think of all the children that has died unimaginable horrible deaths because of the US wars. Think of all the other human tragedies.
War isnt cool..

Think opf all the children that have dies because Europeans prefer the dictators over doing something. Think of all the children who have died in Africa because Europe uses America's absence to excuse themselves. Criticize our wars. We'll criticize your apathy.

And dealing with terrorism the European way is why you have been plaqued with terrorism. No matter what happens in Iraq and Afghanistan's future, America has delivered the message to any and all enemies.



Shameful thing that, it would broaden your perspectives, like it does Europeans who mostly follow national politics, European politics and US politics, and some who follow global politics.

And you claim Europeans are inwards looking..

We simply don't care about people who don't matter to us. Your politics are your business. What do we care who your president is or how you spend your money? You see, the difference is that we are not leeched to you or hanging off your coat tails so what you do doesn't matter. We only scoff at the nerve you all reserve for yourselves to criticize us for everything we do and then offer the bare minimum for global events just to continue the illusion of "friendship."

I hope you can fix your own country, it needs so.

You hope? Spoken like a true European with blinders. Our history has proven that "hoping" for America to lace up is petty. We will do what we have to when we feel the time comes. But I assure you that our fixing ourselves means stranding Europe. You may wish to pretend your emotions, but you really don't want America looking inward and "fixing" us. Because "fixing" us means screwing you. Something we should have done a long time ago. Fixing America means that our consumer based society becomes more and more focused on re-invented American companies and less job exportation. What will that do to the world who clings to us? What will that do to Europe, China, Asia, etc.? What will new energy sources do the Middle East? None of it will be our problem. It will be yours. Like I stated earlier..."We can go home."
 
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This is just not true.. Europe has the second largest deployment of forces in the world, and spend 200 billion euro on defense.

Oh God. I am so sick of this slight of hand. Your deployed forces deal largely in less than military efforts. You ensure peace where peace is a given. You secure food shipments where opposition is all but absent. Even your military deployments in Afghanstan are stumbling and bickering over who can do less than the other behind America, Britian, and oh yes...even Canada.

You brag about how much you spend on your defense, yet America pulls the larger body of your defense as proven even for Bosnia. In Afghanistan, many American troops do without American helicopters, because American helicopters are being used to shuttle your forces around.

This declaration that you are the second largest deployed force is saying much when we consider what this entails.
 
Oh God. I am so sick of this slight of hand. Your deployed forces deal largely in less than military efforts. You ensure peace where peace is a given. You secure food shipments where opposition is all but absent. Even your military deployments in Afghanstan are stumbling and bickering over who can do less than the other behind America, Britian, and oh yes...even Canada.

This declaration that you are the second largest deployed force is saying much when we consider what this entails.

Why is it more important to bring war than to uphold peace?
 
Its pathetic to see the direction the world is taking and the worst of it has happened during Americas "watch"..

Thats a new one, since when we did we have the "watch" responsibility ??
The world chooses its own "direction"; not mine(toward learning, away from religion) and not yours..
Change takes time, even centuries, so have patience...
 
Why is it more important to bring war than to uphold peace?

Hmm. Two ways to lookk at this...

1) It is when the dictator is used to deliver that "peace."

2) Depends on the situation. "Upholding" peace where peace is barely threatened is a waste. Perhaps you should deploy troops to Switzerland to "uphold" the peace. The problem here is that your militaries don't know how to wage a war and this is why they look for ways to hang back out of the fight. They are better suited to small engagements with a gurantee that little matters either way (like Somalia) or that they wil lbe protected by America's more capable force. Seeking ways to deploy in a manner that your military is little more than a peace corps doesn't actually contribute to peace.
 
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Hmm. Two ways to lookk at this...

1) It is when the dictator is used to deliver that "peace."

2) Depends on the situation. "Upholding" peace where peace is barely threatened is a waste. Perhaps you should deploy troops to Switzerland to "uphold" the peace. The problem here is that your militaries don't know how to wage a war and this is why they look for ways to hang back out of the fight. They are better suited to small engagements with a gurantee that little matters either way (like Somalia) or that they wil lbe protected by America's more capable force. Seeking ways to deploy in a manner that your military is little more than a peace corps doesn't actually contribute to peace.

You are the only one with troops in developed peaceful nations. The peacetroops Europe have is mostly in volatile but now peaceful areas of Africa which would otherwise most likely become unpeaceful if they weren't there.

You certainly underestimate peacekeeping GySgt. Thats a shame, its the most important part of "war".
 
You are the only one with troops in developed peaceful nations.

Are you referring to our embassies around the globe to ensure security in key areas? Or maybe referring to protecting western Europe while sitting in peaceful Germany for forty years? Or are you referring to the peaceful nations of Iraq, Afganistan, Haiti, Somailia, Bosnia, etc.?

Our permanent embassies (with a small detail of 15 or 30 Marines in most) do what your deployed troops do without the presence factor in the streets. We also deploy to do what a military traditionally does in Bosnia, Afghanistan, and Iraq. Our troops have the ability to shift from feeding the hungry to attacking those who interfere with that mission in places like Somalia.

The truth is that American troops are active in every type of situation these days and we do it without hoping "big brother" will do the mass of the work or blame "big brother" for not being there to alleviate responsibility.
 
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