View Poll Results: Is the world fu**** up? Is there any hope left?

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  • Nope, its not

    13 23.64%
  • Nope, Im so stupid that I cannot see how idiotic things are

    2 3.64%
  • Nope, I like being a selfish and utterly stupid retard

    4 7.27%
  • The rest of the world is, American culture rules

    4 7.27%
  • Yes, obviously, look at us, we are pathetic beings

    5 9.09%
  • Yes, there is absolutely no hope

    3 5.45%
  • Yes, something needs to be done, people need to be enlightened

    21 38.18%
  • Yea, everything is just ****ed, including me

    3 5.45%
  • Something else.. explain..

    12 21.82%
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    Re: The world is fu**ed and utterly with no hope, or is it?

    Quote Originally Posted by DarkWizard12 View Post
    Are Stock-market day-traders considered labor?
    I don't know the specifics of the unemployment calculation produced by the Department of Labor and Statistics.
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    Re: The world is fu**ed and utterly with no hope, or is it?

    Quote Originally Posted by scourge99 View Post
    Unemployment rate is based only one the labor force population, not the entire population. Thus, the 600,000 derived from the total population based on the change in unemployment is a non-sequitur.
    Well.. The point here is that jobs are lost in record speeds in the US, not the technicalities.. The net change is what the BBC page says anyways, if not it doesnt really matter as long as unemployment is rising as fast as it is doing.. In March of next year the US will have a higher percentage of unemployed than the European Union(which include most of eastern Europe)..
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    Re: The world is fu**ed and utterly with no hope, or is it?

    Quote Originally Posted by Maximus Zeebra View Post
    Well.. The point here is that jobs are lost in record speeds in the US, not the technicalities.
    But the technicalities are what matters!

    Is this an anomaly or is it the average?
    Is it projected to continue or not?
    Is it just statistical a lie or not?

    You seem happy to quote some statistic and then refuse analysis of it.

    Quote Originally Posted by Maximus Zeebra View Post
    The net change is what the BBC page says anyways,
    I still have yet to see ANY indication that its a NET loss. Do you know the difference between a NET loss of jobs and just a loss of jobs?

    Perhaps I missed the part in the article, which is why I asked you to quote it directly where you think a NET loss is stated. You continue to fail on this part so I must assume you are lying or you misunderstood what the article was actually giving a statistic for.

    Quote Originally Posted by Maximus Zeebra View Post
    if not it doesnt really matter as long as unemployment is rising as fast as it is doing.. In March of next year the US will have a higher percentage of unemployed than the European Union(which include most of eastern Europe)..
    Now where did you get this info? Do you know how to cite sources to back your claims?
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    Re: The world is fu**ed and utterly with no hope, or is it?

    Quote Originally Posted by scourge99 View Post
    But the technicalities are what matters!

    Is this an anomaly or is it the average?
    Is it projected to continue or not?
    Is it just statistical a lie or not?
    The technicalities doesnt matter when we are talking about the US net loss of job.. The rate rose from 6.5% to 6.7%, that is the scary point.. Its far from average, and projected to worsen, not a statistical lie considering the US is in recession..

    Quote Originally Posted by scourge99 View Post
    You seem happy to quote some statistic and then refuse analysis of it.
    Thats a horrible lie, I did analyze it, but the technicalities wasnt important in this case.. The point was that the unemployment is rising fast, and it is..

    Quote Originally Posted by scourge99 View Post
    I still have yet to see ANY indication that its a NET loss. Do you know the difference between a NET loss of jobs and just a loss of jobs?
    You dont? Then you are blind, the unemployment rate rose from 6.5% to 6.7%, if that is not NET less, then I do not know what is, and especially considering the rate was around 4% last year you ought to start worry about this tendency.. Dont get stuck in technicalities just for matter of debate like many people in this forum do when they choose to overlook the broader context in favor of derailing the debates.

    Quote Originally Posted by scourge99 View Post
    Perhaps I missed the part in the article, which is why I asked you to quote it directly where you think a NET loss is stated.
    My bad sorry.. Maybe the 550.000 was not the actual net loss, but the change from 6.5% to 6.7% DEFINTELY is a NET LOSS::

    Quote Originally Posted by scourge99 View Post
    You continue to fail on this part so I must assume you are lying or you misunderstood what the article was actually giving a statistic for.
    You just choose to overlook the points here in favor of debating technicalities.. If you cant see the unemployment rate going up, then I do understand that the problem is more severe than first assume, especially if this is the general attitude in the US to conveniently overlook the broader picture to get stuck in technicalities.

    Quote Originally Posted by scourge99 View Post
    Now where did you get this info? Do you know how to cite sources to back your claims?
    Aboout US unemployment surpassing the European Union, that one was speculation based on the current tendencies.



    Im sorry for just jawdroppingly crushing you in this round of post that I want to apologize for being so right all the time, AND I am not even going to mention or try to make you feel bad about it..
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    Re: The world is fu**ed and utterly with no hope, or is it?

    Quote Originally Posted by Maximus Zeebra View Post
    Its pathetic to see the direction the world is taking and the worst of it has happened during Americas "watch"..
    Right, because the world was all peaches and cream before America's "watch."

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    Re: The world is fu**ed and utterly with no hope, or is it?

    Quote Originally Posted by Maximus Zeebra View Post
    ... the US net loss of job.. The rate rose from 6.5% to 6.7%,


    Then you are blind, the unemployment rate rose from 6.5% to 6.7%, if that is not NET less, then I do not know what is, and especially considering the rate was around 4% last year you ought to start worry about this tendency..
    please go read the TECHNICALITIES of the unemployment calculation. Its not a simple calculation where the only factors are the employed and unemployed. There are far more factors thus I do not find it compelling that you identify but ONE FACTOR that changes and you go on to presume that this one factor accounts for the change in the unemployment rate.

    Dont get stuck in technicalities just for matter of debate like many people in this forum do when they choose to overlook the broader context in favor of derailing the debates.
    When you don't understand the technicalities like what a NET loss is as opposed to a loss or that the unemployment rate is calculated on more than just a single factor then of course you will ignorantly write themm off as unimportant "technicalities".


    My bad sorry.. Maybe the 550.000 was not the actual net loss, but the change from 6.5% to 6.7% DEFINTELY is a NET LOSS::
    ok you are getting there. Now you need to show me why you think the job loss is the SOLE FACTOR for the change in the unemployment rate. The unemployment has MANY factors that contribute to its calculation... but I'm sure that's just a "technicality" to you.
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    Re: The world is fu**ed and utterly with no hope, or is it?

    Quote Originally Posted by Harshaw View Post
    Right, because the world was all peaches and cream before America's "watch."

    Strangely enough, I see the goodly share of the world's problems stemming directly from the the aftermath of European colonialism. And I don't see many solutions, or even more than half-hearted attempts at solutions, coming out of Europe.

    Never said it was so good before, but compared with potential we are faring quite bad right now.

    What you say is somehwat true, but I believe in neo-colonization as a solution to many problems in for example Africa, but with their cooperation in this case.
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    Re: The world is fu**ed and utterly with no hope, or is it?

    Quote Originally Posted by scourge99 View Post
    please go read the TECHNICALITIES of the unemployment calculation. Its not a simple calculation where the only factors are the employed and unemployed. There are far more factors thus I do not find it compelling that you identify but ONE FACTOR that changes and you go on to presume that this one factor accounts for the change in the unemployment rate.

    When you don't understand the technicalities like what a NET loss is as opposed to a loss or that the unemployment rate is calculated on more than just a single factor then of course you will ignorantly write themm off as unimportant "technicalities".


    ok you are getting there. Now you need to show me why you think the job loss is the SOLE FACTOR for the change in the unemployment rate. The unemployment has MANY factors that contribute to its calculation... but I'm sure that's just a "technicality" to you.
    I give up.. You just dont get the points.. Read my last post again.. Slowly this time..
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    Re: The world is fu**ed and utterly with no hope, or is it?

    Quote Originally Posted by Maximus Zeebra View Post
    I give up.. You just dont get the points.. Read my last post again.. Slowly this time..
    ahh i see. But I still believe you assume too much.

    the jobless_rate/unemployment rate went from 6.5% to 6.7%.

    Also lets put this in perspective:The world is fu**ed and utterly with no hope, or is it?-unemplyoment-rate-jpg

    Now lets take a look at what the dreaded unemployment rate actually means: Unemployment - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    Wow it looks like we aren't that bad off after all.
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    Re: The world is fu**ed and utterly with no hope, or is it?

    It seems we have made some progress since Homo Erectus.
    It would be comforting if SETI had found something though.

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