Nope, its not
Nope, Im so stupid that I cannot see how idiotic things are
Nope, I like being a selfish and utterly stupid retard
The rest of the world is, American culture rules
Yes, obviously, look at us, we are pathetic beings
Yes, there is absolutely no hope
Yes, something needs to be done, people need to be enlightened
Yea, everything is just ****ed, including me
Something else.. explain..
1) Moral obligation: Iraq's population rose up repeatedly at our calling only to find that we didn't come to their rescue. Instead we preserved the tyrant under UN rules, which saw thousands of Iraqis starve to death. We pretend to not have known, but the truth is that the UN saw no problems with moving "soveriegnty" to the side so that American troops oculd assist in the humanitarian crisis in the north for years and years while this was happening.
2) Bigger picture: With the Israeli/Palestinian situation being the most important factor for Muslims before "peace in the Middle East" becomes a reality, Hussein funded Palestinian suicide bombing was a problem that wasn't going away.
3) Regional threat: If we add Iran and Kuwait to his flying military jets over Jordanian and Saudi air space as late as 2002, that would equal "4" neighboring countries that he dismissed sovereinty over. If we wanted to factor in the true definition of "sovereignty," the never ending suicide bomber violence he promoted in Israel (brief mention of Gulf War rocketing) this invasion of sovereignty would be "5."
We really don't even need to go into to what a successful Democratic Iraq does for the region. But just with these three points, UN still saw nothing wrong with the status quo and the denial. Europeans and plenty of Americans still sought to tie their morality to a system instead of to true values.
BUT....enter the other theme of the Euro anti-American. America's treasure is a matter for them to decide upon and it ussualy demands that it be saved up for when Europe needs it. The fact is that America has been in Africa since 2004. The HOA is a hot spot. Bush and Blair were the loudest speakers in the West to get UN intervention into Africa's Darfur region.
So the question is...where is the EU? Where's the European nations who feel they can criticize our involvement with Iraq by using neglected Africa as a tool...yet also remain comfortably absent from Sudan and Zimbabwe themselves? Were this a European nation like say....genocidal Bosnia,...military intervention would be ordained by God and the American "Bat-Signal" would have been over European skies. If your argument that the world doesn't need America's meddling anymore is true, then where is the great European leadership leading the charge into Africa?
The real truth is that if America ain't leading it, it ain't happening. Maybe this is why Europeans resent us so much. They know that their own governments just can't get a job done without us and without us leading, their is no leader.
Nobody, to include Europe, can change the past. But, nor can Europe change the present, which means it has very little to do with shaping the future. Without us, it's just not going to happen because our fuzzy ideas of international law are a matter of convenience. Either the sovereignty of governments get intervened upon due to their proximity (Bosnia, Haiti) or they get sovereinty enforced upon them because their slaughter and genocide matter not to Europe.
America always changes. Europe pretends and covers the cracks until the tribes have had enough.
Cavemen invented the wheel. But what have they done lately?
Europe's best bet is to keep America in the fold with "NATO" or to create a European military worth a damn and work with America's forces. But this is unlikely, because this would be like placing your citizens under the charge of other nation's leadership. Who leads it? France? Germany? Belgium? Norway? Britian, which is viewed as an outsider? Do they take turns? Do they vote on the General? Does Biritian remain on the outside as its own entity? American forces never fall under the charge of a foriegn leader. I don't see all of Europe's tribes uniting like this. It would be just like a UN mission where all the individual nations bicker and complain about work load and burden sharing (which is humerously never close to what America's roles always are).
Last edited by MSgt; 11-26-08 at 05:09 PM.
The world is as screwed up as it's always been.
"He who does not think himself worth saving from poverty and ignorance by his own efforts, will hardly be thought worth the efforts of anybody else." -- Frederick Douglass, Self-Made Men (1872)
oh, that is priceless.Originally Posted by GySgt
If you believe in the Supernatural then you can become a millionaire!
Questioning or criticizing another's core beliefs is inadvertently perceived as offensive and rude.
let me disagree with one little thing you said:
Then, look at the demographics of the USA:
Demographics of the United States - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Most of the black people are desccendants of slaves who arrived from 1619 to 1860
Racial and ethnic demographics of the United States - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Then compare it to France: only 5% of its inhabitants have North African origins (3 millions) who arrived only in the 60's and 70's, which explains that many don't feel fully French (their parents were born in Algeria, Turkey...and still speak Arabic or Turk) and are less well integrated
Demographics of France - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
That is why it is "normal" that the president of France isn't black: there are less black people and they have come much more recently.
However, Sarkozy (who is Jewish and pro american) has chosen a senegalese woman as secretary of state, who could be compared to Condi Rice
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