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Should non-citizens be legally able to vote in Wash. DC?

Should non-citizens be legally able to vote in Wash D.C.?


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Literally, I can not see a single argument for allowing non-citizens of the United States to vote in our elections. I do however believe that immigrants that legally obtain citizenship should have every single right to vote.
 
Literally, I can not see a single argument for allowing non-citizens of the United States to vote in our elections. I do however believe that immigrants that legally obtain citizenship should have every single right to vote.

I can. Because non-citizens arent necessarily here illegally. We invite and accept lots of immigrant people here to the US, and local elections (as well as national) may affect them. And arent legal immigrants taxed as well? They pay sales tax and have $$ taken out of their checks, etc.

I'm not saying I agree but to me, that's a legitimate reason.
 
Hell no. They can vote when they become citizens and have a vested and permanent interest here. Until then, they are our guests and nothing more.
 
No, if you're not a citizen, you don't get to vote.

If they want to vote, become a citizen.
 
Yes, but only if they have lived (without interruption and legally, taxpaying and everything) for a minimum of 5 years. Then you can choose to give them that right. But not before 5 years are past or if they have lived in the US illegally.
 
Yes, but only if they have lived (without interruption and legally, taxpaying and everything) for a minimum of 5 years. Then you can choose to give them that right. But not before 5 years are past or if they have lived in the US illegally.

Unless they become a citizen beforehand. Then they gain all rights of citizens
 
Unless they become a citizen beforehand. Then they gain all rights of citizens

Of course, but this poll was about non-citizens. If they legally obtain citizenship they must be treated like any other American citizen.
 
Of course, but this poll was about non-citizens. If they legally obtain citizenship they must be treated like any other American citizen.

How long does it take to obtain citizenship anyway? I'm a natural born citizen so I never had to go through that rigmarole
 
How long does it take to obtain citizenship anyway? I'm a natural born citizen so I never had to go through that rigmarole

I am Dutch, I have no idea whatsoever :lol:
 
How do things work in your country? Just curious. The Dutch settled part of the colonies (New York I believe) so you're tied to us.

We have links from before the US was a country and one of the oldest US allies in the world.

In the Netherlands they can vote if they live in the Netherlands for 5 years without interruption and legally. Or they are citizens of other countries that permanently live in the Netherlands.

Everyone who lives in a Dutch city has to register at city hall. And if you qualify for participating in elections, you get a voter card sent home, you then go with that card and your identity card to the local voting office and vote for your favorite candidate or your favorite party.
 
We have links from before the US was a country and one of the oldest US allies in the world.

In the Netherlands they can vote if they live in the Netherlands for 5 years without interruption and legally. Or they are citizens of other countries that permanently live in the Netherlands.

Everyone who lives in a Dutch city has to register at city hall. And if you qualify for participating in elections, you get a voter card sent home, you then go with that card and your identity card to the local voting office and vote for your favorite candidate or your favorite party.

Like I said, the Dutch settled what is now New York (New Amsterdam originally). We don't typically register at City Hall here in the US. We have what are called Board of Elections in every county, at least in NC that is. We also have early voting in some states (NC is one) where you can go to the Board of Elections and vote. On election day you have designated polling places (mine is a local high school) where you go vote. They are typically open until around 730 pm
 
An interesting portent of our times...

http://lims.dccouncil.us/Download/33251/B21-0028-Introduction.pdf

The DC city council has issued a bill that would allow non-citizens to vote in Washington D.C., for local elections. Should this be allowed? Vote in the poll.
San Francisco proposed this same thing several years ago. I forget how it panned out, but I think it was ultimately defeated.

Anyway, no, they should not. Wanna vote? Become a citizen.
 
Btw: I was shocked to learn a friend of mine from Florida who married a girl he met online from England and moved there to be with her votes in British elections. He's NOT a British citizen but has lived there since 2004. His wife is British and he has two British kids although I'm not sure if family has anything to do with it.

Yeah, he was going on and on about the libdems and the Tories on Facebook (no idea who these people are expect British political parties) and who he was voting for so I asked him does he vote over there. He said yep. What's extra surprising is the UK does NOT allow their own British subjects living in overseas protectorates such as the British Virgin Islands, the Falklands, the sandwich islands, the Cayman Islands, etc. vote in British elections. If they had, I fully believe most of the pre-WWII British Empire would still be intact.

Now that I think about it and for clarity, the UK does not have a national election for Prime Minister like we have for president if I'm not mistaken. Instead, people there vote for their own representative in parliament like we vote for our congressmen. Those members of parliament then elect a prime minister based on party affiliation. So if it were, if you wanted Hillary Clinton to be president, you'd have to vote for a democrat congressman. The British territories are not represented in the British Parlament.
 
I voted no but I admit I don't know much about this. For example can somebody be here legally for like say 5 years, not be a citizen and paid types of taxes all that time? That could influence my answer and if that situation is possible why are they not a legal citizen yet?? are they trying but it just takes that long
??
 
Voting is a privilege of citizenship. Non-citizens should never be allowed to vote.
 
An interesting portent of our times...

http://lims.dccouncil.us/Download/33251/B21-0028-Introduction.pdf


The DC city council has issued a bill that would allow non-citizens to vote in Washington D.C., for local elections. Should this be allowed? Vote in the poll.

I clicked no but I meant yes... too fast for my own good. I was thinking initially of "illegal" immigrants. As a LEGAL immigrant to New Zealand I am allowed to vote in every election and I should be allowed to. I have a job, contibute to society, pay my taxes, have children here... heck, the only thing I did to hurt this country was to bring my soon to be ex-wife along.
 
Heck no. However convicted felons are still American citizens; let them vote.

So a convicted murderer or child rapist can vote but a contributing tax paying immigrant doctor that saves lives should not be allowed to vote? WTF?
 
Voting is a privilege of citizenship. Non-citizens should never be allowed to vote.

San Francisco proposed this same thing several years ago. I forget how it panned out, but I think it was ultimately defeated.

Anyway, no, they should not. Wanna vote? Become a citizen.

As a LEGAL immigrant to New Zealand I am allowed to vote in every election and I should be allowed to. I have a job, contibute to society, pay my taxes, have children here... heck, the only thing I did to hurt this country was to bring my soon to be ex-wife along.
 
I voted no but I admit I don't know much about this. For example can somebody be here legally for like say 5 years, not be a citizen and paid types of taxes all that time? That could influence my answer and if that situation is possible why are they not a legal citizen yet?? are they trying but it just takes that long
??

Yes they can. We are Permanent Residents here for almost 10 years now. We have jobs, kids in school system, pay taxes... hell yeah I should, and get to, vote here.
 
So a convicted murderer or child rapist can vote but a contributing tax paying immigrant doctor that saves lives should not be allowed to vote? WTF?

It all comes down to citizenship. If you are not a citizen, you are not a part of the nation and have no legitimate stake in its future; you are an alien, and as welcome a guest as you may prove to be, until you're a citizen, you are still just a guest.
 
It all comes down to citizenship. If you are not a citizen, you are not a part of the nation and have no legitimate stake in its future; you are an alien, and as welcome a guest as you may prove to be, until you're a citizen, you are still just a guest.

A citizen can and does leave the country... as I did.
A non-citizen can and does become a daily part of the country he moves to... as I did.

I can vote in American elections even though I haven't lived there in almost a decade.
That makes FAR LESS sense than what we have here...
I can vote in New Zealand elections because I live her, pay taxes here and because I AM a part of this nation.
 
A citizen can and does leave the country... as I did.
A non-citizen can and does become a daily part of the country he moves to... as I did.

I can vote in American elections even though I haven't lived there in almost a decade.
That makes FAR LESS sense than what we have here...
I can vote in New Zealand elections because I live her, pay taxes here and because I AM a part of this nation.

Why not pursue citizenship, then?

I guess it's because they will give you the benefits and privileges of citizenship without requiring you to meet the requirements and responsibilities thereof. Rather like a cliché about men immature boys who prefer “easy” girls, rather than finding one suitable women to settle down with and marry—“Why pay for the cow when you can get the milk for free?”
 
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