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  • I am an Atheist

    23 34.33%
  • I am Agnostic

    24 35.82%
  • I believe in a Creator -who may intervene

    15 22.39%
  • I am a Deist

    4 5.97%
  • Science and Religious belief can coexist

    38 56.72%
  • Science and Religious belief cannot coexist

    9 13.43%
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    Re: The Religious/Atheist/Agnostic/Deist/ Theism/Science? and Poll

    Quote Originally Posted by spud_meister View Post
    So I could believe in God, but as long as I don't attend a dogmatic church I'm not religious?
    There are those who argue that.

    There are those who profess some sort of mystical spirituality of no decernable theology or sense what so ever. I call it just drivel in a hippy sense but ... they say it's not religious.

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    Re: The Religious/Atheist/Agnostic/Deist/ Theism/Science? and Poll

    Quote Originally Posted by Manc Skipper View Post
    Projection is a subtle psychological schema for selfjustification of one's untenable worldview
    And big words don't make a good point when they have no meaning in the sentence they are in.

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    Re: The Religious/Atheist/Agnostic/Deist/ Theism/Science? and Poll

    Quote Originally Posted by spud_meister View Post
    Satanism is just another sect of Christianity. Why are the "though police" Satanists?
    Who are the "though police"?

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    Re: The Religious/Atheist/Agnostic/Deist/ Theism/Science? and Poll

    Quote Originally Posted by Tim the plumber View Post
    If it has dogma which cannot be challenged, preists who are incharge of such dogma, set ways of thinking etc... then it's a religion. Look at global warming.
    Dogma is not exclusive to religion, as a matter of fact, it's simply a word a set of principles. Professional body building has dogma. Artistry has dogma. Neither are religions. No priests in communism/feminism/capitalism etc, and global warming has been challenged in multiple ways. Try again.
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    Re: The Religious/Atheist/Agnostic/Deist/ Theism/Science? and Poll

    I am a deist/agnostic-theist...

    Some religion dabbles in philosophy.... the ones that don't and parts that don't, I don't think they are compatible with science if you are truly being honest within your own mind...

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    Re: The Religious/Atheist/Agnostic/Deist/ Theism/Science? and Poll

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    Dogma is not exclusive to religion, as a matter of fact, it's simply a word a set of principles. Professional body building has dogma. Artistry has dogma. Neither are religions. No priests in communism/feminism/capitalism etc, and global warming has been challenged in multiple ways. Try again.
    Political correctness is a religion. Deal with it.

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    Re: The Religious/Atheist/Agnostic/Deist/ Theism/Science? and Poll

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    Dogma is not exclusive to religion, as a matter of fact, it's simply a word a set of principles. Professional body building has dogma. Artistry has dogma. Neither are religions. No priests in communism/feminism/capitalism etc, and global warming has been challenged in multiple ways. Try again.
    It seems it is all semantics actually and pointless to even argue, but many will just to get under your skin, you just don't Identify yourself with the word religion, to you it has a negative connotation if it is put on yourself.

    there seems to be a few different definitions of religon..
    1. Belief in and worship of an supernatural God/s
    2. a particular system of faith and worship.

    You seem to be both right....
    Ideologies could, technically fall under the second definition... does it not? You don't have to have faith in or worship a god, you could an ideology and it's leadership. The national anthem and pledge of allegiance is some form of worship....Idealization of figures is worship, idealization of ideology is faith and worship.

    in the end it's just semantics to piss you off...

    but their could be significance to calling Nazism a religon, there are some definite similarities... or any extreme social construct operates like a religion..

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    Re: The Religious/Atheist/Agnostic/Deist/ Theism/Science? and Poll

    Quote Originally Posted by Unicron View Post
    Political correctness is a religion. Deal with it.
    LOL.... wha? Who is the supernatural being in political correctness? Don't worry. Take your time. Or post another picture of Xenu. I don't care.
    Last edited by Hatuey; 07-08-15 at 04:25 PM.
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    Re: The Religious/Atheist/Agnostic/Deist/ Theism/Science? and Poll

    Quote Originally Posted by celticwar17 View Post
    It seems it is all semantics actually
    Nope, there aren't any semantics to be played. It's people using a word wrong. That word being: Religion. Religions have supernatural beings. None of the ideologies and economic policies have any supernatural beings. There is nothing to be faithful about when it comes to them. Continuing this argument that it's a religion because people simply believe a particular measure is best, is quite absurd.

    You seem to be both right....
    Ideologies could, technically fall under the second definition... does it not?
    No. Political ideologies are competing ideas for how to best structure a society or how to view events. Only one of these political ideas for good governance specifically carries religious implications. That is theocracy. Theocracy itself is NOT a religion. It's structuring government THROUGH a specific set of religious beliefs. So outside of that you have: republicanism, liberalism, feminism, capitalism, sexism, racism, marxism, libertarianism, fascism etc. None of which exist as a particular system of faith or worship. Nobody goes to the church of republicanism or confesses their sins to feminist priests. There are no ethnic or racial undercurrents behind these political ideologies. That's why they're not religions. Please, this is Poli-Sci 101.
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    Re: The Religious/Atheist/Agnostic/Deist/ Theism/Science? and Poll

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    Nope, there aren't any semantics to be played. It's people using a word wrong. That word being: Religion. Religions have supernatural beings. None of the ideologies and economic policies have any supernatural beings. There is nothing to be faithful about when it comes to them. Continuing this argument that it's a religion because people simply believe a particular measure is best, is quite absurd.



    No. Political ideologies are competing ideas for how to best structure a society or how to view events. Only one of these political ideas for good governance specifically carries religious implications. That is theocracy. Theocracy itself is NOT a religion. It's structuring government THROUGH a specific set of religious beliefs. So outside of that you have: republicanism, liberalism, feminism, capitalism, sexism, racism, marxism, libertarianism, fascism etc. None of which exist as a particular system of faith or worship. Nobody goes to the church of republicanism or confesses their sins to feminist priests. There are no ethnic or racial undercurrents behind these political ideologies. That's why they're not religions. Please, this is Poli-Sci 101.
    hmmm your interpretation seems a little rigid, but again... It doesn't matter to me

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