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  • I am an Atheist

    23 34.33%
  • I am Agnostic

    24 35.82%
  • I believe in a Creator -who may intervene

    15 22.39%
  • I am a Deist

    4 5.97%
  • Science and Religious belief can coexist

    38 56.72%
  • Science and Religious belief cannot coexist

    9 13.43%
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    Re: The Religious/Atheist/Agnostic/Deist/ Theism/Science? and Poll

    Quote Originally Posted by Tim the plumber View Post
    Edit; You can have atheist religions; Communism and Nazism for example. But even here having a skeptical mind gets rid of the drivel.
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    What makes you think either of those things are religions
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    Re: The Religious/Atheist/Agnostic/Deist/ Theism/Science? and Poll

    Quote Originally Posted by JANFU View Post
    The Religious/Atheist/Agnostic/Deist/ Theism/Science?
    I am an Atheist
    I am Agnostic
    I believe in a Creator –Theism
    I am a Deist
    Science and Religious belief can coexist
    Science and Religious belief cannot coexist


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    I am an atheist, by the second descriptor of the definition provided: one who disbelieves in gods. That is not the same as denial. I just see no reason to accept their existence as true with the current lack of evidence.

    I didn't vote on the second aspect: whether science is compatible with religion. Reason being, it depends what you mean by "science."

    If you are going to be a scientist, I think you must always be open to reconsidering your beliefs in light of the evidence. But you could still be an agnostic theist and be a scientist, under that mode of thinking.

    However, individual scientific concepts never completely disprove deities, at least not at this point. For example, while evolution does disprove the "seven days" creation myth, it does not necessarily rule out the possibility of a god planting the seed of life so that evolution could take hold. Abiogenesis is the field of scientific study dedicated to figuring out how life started, but as of now, there is no theory that has overwhelming evidence and support, so there is no reason why believing a god planted life is incompatible with evolution.

    I personally think that defaulting to believing "god did it" is a bit silly, since there is no evidence of that either. But science cannot currently exclude it, therefore it is not mutually exclusive with science.

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    Re: The Religious/Atheist/Agnostic/Deist/ Theism/Science? and Poll

    Quote Originally Posted by SmokeAndMirrors View Post
    I am an atheist, by the second descriptor of the definition provided: one who disbelieves in gods. That is not the same as denial. I just see no reason to accept their existence as true with the current lack of evidence.

    I didn't vote on the second aspect: whether science is compatible with religion. Reason being, it depends what you mean by "science."

    If you are going to be a scientist, I think you must always be open to reconsidering your beliefs in light of the evidence. But you could still be an agnostic theist and be a scientist, under that mode of thinking.

    However, individual scientific concepts never completely disprove deities, at least not at this point. For example, while evolution does disprove the "seven days" creation myth, it does not necessarily rule out the possibility of a god planting the seed of life so that evolution could take hold. Abiogenesis is the field of scientific study dedicated to figuring out how life started, but as of now, there is no theory that has overwhelming evidence and support, so there is no reason why believing a god planted life is incompatible with evolution.

    I personally think that defaulting to believing "god did it" is a bit silly, since there is no evidence of that either. But science cannot currently exclude it, therefore it is not mutually exclusive with science.
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    Re: The Religious/Atheist/Agnostic/Deist/ Theism/Science? and Poll

    Quote Originally Posted by Unicron View Post
    Oh yes they are.
    No. They. Are. Not.
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    Re: The Religious/Atheist/Agnostic/Deist/ Theism/Science? and Poll

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    No. They. Are. Not.
    Ohhhh yes they are.

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    Re: The Religious/Atheist/Agnostic/Deist/ Theism/Science? and Poll

    Quote Originally Posted by Unicron View Post
    Oh yes they are.
    Forcing the square atheism peg into the round religious hole requires expanding the definition of religion to the point that taking a **** in the morning qualifies as a religion.

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    Re: The Religious/Atheist/Agnostic/Deist/ Theism/Science? and Poll

    Quote Originally Posted by Unicron View Post
    Ohhhh yes they are.
    Continuing to claim it won't change the fact that religions don't exist without supernatural beings. None of which exist in ANY of the ideologies you mentioned.
    I refuse to accept the view that mankind is so tragically bound to the starless midnight of racism and war that the bright daybreak of peace and brotherhood can never become a reality. - MLK

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    Re: The Religious/Atheist/Agnostic/Deist/ Theism/Science? and Poll

    Quote Originally Posted by Cardinal View Post
    Forcing the square atheism peg into the round religious hole requires expanding the definition of religion to the point that taking a **** in the morning qualifies as a religion.
    There's all types of religion. Those that want to convert others, those that don't, those that don't have a god (Bhuddhism), those that have many.

    Even some where the majority of adherents don't even know what(or who) they are worshipping, such as Scientology and Feminism/political correctness.

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    Re: The Religious/Atheist/Agnostic/Deist/ Theism/Science? and Poll

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    Continuing to claim it won't change the fact that religions don't exist without supernatural beings. None of which exist in ANY of the ideologies you mentioned.
    I didn't mention them.

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    Re: The Religious/Atheist/Agnostic/Deist/ Theism/Science? and Poll

    Quote Originally Posted by Unicron View Post
    I didn't mention them.
    Just the same, there is no such thing as religions without supernatural beings.
    I refuse to accept the view that mankind is so tragically bound to the starless midnight of racism and war that the bright daybreak of peace and brotherhood can never become a reality. - MLK

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