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Thread: US Unemployment: Good news or bad news?

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    Re: US Unemployment: Good news or bad news?

    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post
    I actually agree with some of what you say here. Not all though. I disagree with the 35 hour work week idea. That won't happen.
    Why do you object to a reduction in the workweek?
    Social democrat is no longer an accurate description of my views.

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    Re: US Unemployment: Good news or bad news?

    Quote Originally Posted by SocialDemocrat View Post
    Why do you object to a reduction in the workweek?
    I said it won't happen. If we were forced to reduce our workweek to 35 hours, we wouldn't hire more people. The ones who work for us would have to do more in less time.
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    Re: US Unemployment: Good news or bad news?

    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post

    I said it won't happen. If we were forced to reduce our workweek to 35 hours, we wouldn't hire more people. The ones who work for us would have to do more in less time.
    That's how I learned too: The employer says you have X amount of time to get Y things sucessfully completed. If you cannot do that, you are not competent at your job and therefore should not work here. The only job I was ever fired from was when I was in HS doing part time cold calling sales at an ITT facility. They'd rip off a sheet of names and I'd have to call each and every one of them --- I was so horrible at it after 1 month and nearly 5,000 manually dialed calls I had exactly ZERO valid sales. I was never so happy to be fired... ever.
    I think if Thomas Jefferson were looking down, the author of the Bill of Rights, on whats being proposed here, hed agree with it. He would agree that the First Amendment cannot be absolute. - Chuck Schumer (D). Yet, Madison and Mason wrote the Bill of Rights, according to Sheila Jackson Lee, 400 years ago. Yup, it's a fact.


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    Re: US Unemployment: Good news or bad news?

    Quote Originally Posted by SocialDemocrat View Post
    Why do you object to a reduction in the workweek?
    Why would you want to work fewer hours? Don't you enjoy, what you do? I have always found it time to do something new, when that has happened to me.

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    Re: US Unemployment: Good news or bad news?

    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post

    I said it won't happen. If we were forced to reduce our workweek to 35 hours, we wouldn't hire more people. The ones who work for us would have to do more in less time.
    Countries with shorter workweeks generally have better working conditions and lower unemployment rates than the United States.
    Social democrat is no longer an accurate description of my views.

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    Re: US Unemployment: Good news or bad news?

    I'm not saying other countries don't do it. I'm talking about this country. I said it won't happen here. They won't be forced to cut back hours and automatically hire more people.
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    Re: US Unemployment: Good news or bad news?

    Quote Originally Posted by joG View Post
    Why would you want to work fewer hours? Don't you enjoy, what you do? I have always found it time to do something new, when that has happened to me.
    See my earlier post in this thread. My support for a shorter workweek has nothing to do with my personal situation. Reducing the workweek reduces unemployment by requiring businesses to hire more employees to compensate for the fact that employees are working less hours. As society currently functions, not everyone has the option of having the job they want, and workers, especially those engaged in daily physical labor, deserve the right not to be overworked.
    Social democrat is no longer an accurate description of my views.

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    Re: US Unemployment: Good news or bad news?

    Quote Originally Posted by joG View Post
    Why would you want to work fewer hours? Don't you enjoy, what you do? I have always found it time to do something new, when that has happened to me.
    Even if you love what you do, many believe a more balanced life of family, friends, and recreation is more fruitful.

    Working a lot of hours for long periods of time exemplifies a one dimensional & shallow life, IMO.

    There's a time where that may be required occasionally, but it should not be life's normalcy.
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    Re: US Unemployment: Good news or bad news?

    Quote Originally Posted by sookster View Post
    "Don't care. I don't care about polar bears, and I don't care about people who think our policies should be dictated by the effects on polar bears. Polar bears are basically Ice Monsters. Like that thing in the second Star Wars movie. **** em. And anything with more than four legs." -Deuce

    Apparently that quote is something your agree with. Let me just say that nature doesn't care what you care about. We might be not far down below polar bears on the list of species nature decides can't be supported anymore and that might be something you care about but it won't help you a bit.

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    Re: US Unemployment: Good news or bad news?

    Quote Originally Posted by SocialDemocrat View Post
    See my earlier post in this thread. My support for a shorter workweek has nothing to do with my personal situation. Reducing the workweek reduces unemployment by requiring businesses to hire more employees to compensate for the fact that employees are working less hours. As society currently functions, not everyone has the option of having the job they want, and workers, especially those engaged in daily physical labor, deserve the right not to be overworked.
    Actually, that probably does not work that way. I would have to look up to see, what studies have been done. But the French did reduce worked hours a while back and seemed to effect the reduction in economic activity I had expected. This is because the cost of doing business rises, when two people do the job one could. When the cost of business goes up it reduces production. Ultimately you need fewer employees.

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