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Thread: Should same-sex marriage be allowed?

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    Re: Should same-sex marriage be allowed?

    Quote Originally Posted by Korimyr the Rat View Post
    Yes. Men and women have an obligation to their ancestors to preserve their family lines.
    Huh. Why?

    If every woman on the planet decided that the would never reproduce again - I'm fine with that. That's their choice. And men don't have that direct choice. It's up to "willing" women, actually.

    Our ancestors weren't always right. And neither are we.

    But to claim that every person has a moral obligation to reproduce "is pretty far out".

    What if you, as a man, reproduce and don't want to?
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    Re: Should same-sex marriage be allowed?

    I cannot vote either because I have no particular lean. With that said...SSM should have been allowed long ago so they could have the same perks heteros have. Long over due. However, with that said, I don't think the SCOTUS should have the right to vote it in to law. It should be each states decision, voted on by people of that state.

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    Re: Should same-sex marriage be allowed?

    Quote Originally Posted by Removable Mind View Post
    Huh. Why?
    Because we are reborn within our family lines. Our ancestors made room for us, so we must make room for them.

    If you're not religious, think about your grandparents and everything they did for your parents and for you so that you could exist in this world-- they would want you to have kids of your own, wouldn't they?

    Quote Originally Posted by Removable Mind View Post
    If every woman on the planet decided that the would never reproduce again - I'm fine with that. That's their choice. And men don't have that direct choice. It's up to "willing" women, actually.
    That would lead to the extinction of the species.

    Quote Originally Posted by Removable Mind View Post
    What if you, as a man, reproduce and don't want to?
    Then you either uphold your obligation to your ancestors or you don't. Reproduction should be a choice and parenthood should never be forced on unwilling persons by the State. But there's a matter of right and wrong, and the right thing to do, eventually, is to settle down and raise a family if you are able.

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    Re: Should same-sex marriage be allowed?

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    Re: Should same-sex marriage be allowed?

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    Only if they give me free bacon strips.
    Only one thing smells like bacon, and that's bacon.
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    Re: Should same-sex marriage be allowed?

    Quote Originally Posted by Korimyr the Rat View Post
    Because we are reborn within our family lines. Our ancestors made room for us, so we must make room for them.

    If you're not religious, think about your grandparents and everything they did for your parents and for you so that you could exist in this world-- they would want you to have kids of your own, wouldn't they?

    That would lead to the extinction of the species.

    Then you either uphold your obligation to your ancestors or you don't. Reproduction should be a choice and parenthood should never be forced on unwilling persons by the State. But there's a matter of right and wrong, and the right thing to do, eventually, is to settle down and raise a family if you are able.
    I can see we have way different heritages and ancestors.

    No, I'm not religious.

    Yes, all women refusing to reproduce would lead to extinction. But again, if they all declared it to be so...then I'm fine with that decision.

    I don't think any person has a moral or legal obligation to reproduce. That every person does so for their own sake...not their ancestor's.

    So I think we're pretty far away from holding any alike thoughts regarding reproduction. Well, and probably religion and a number of other things, but I still like some things you post.
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    Re: Should same-sex marriage be allowed?

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    And I'm not like that damn dog that can be tricked. I know me some bacon.
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    Re: Should same-sex marriage be allowed?

    Now that we've legalized gay marriage, the obvious next step is to ban straight marriage and crush heterosexuality into oblivion.

    I assume most Republicans' nightmares are something like that, no?
    Social democrat is no longer an accurate description of my views.

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    Re: Should same-sex marriage be allowed?

    Quote Originally Posted by Korimyr the Rat View Post
    Yes. Men and women have an obligation to their ancestors to preserve their family lines.
    As is my new "standard" response to pro-life arguments.

    Meh. Overpopulation is a serious problem.

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    Re: Should same-sex marriage be allowed?

    Quote Originally Posted by Enola View Post
    I cannot vote either because I have no particular lean. With that said...SSM should have been allowed long ago so they could have the same perks heteros have. Long over due. However, with that said, I don't think the SCOTUS should have the right to vote it in to law. It should be each states decision, voted on by people of that state.
    So then you disagree with our founders in creating a Republic??

    Do you think that rights and liberties of the individual should be subject to the whims of the majority? Rather than the rights and liberties of the individual protected from encroachment by the majority?

    Do you believe that in some imaginary majority white racist state, the rights of black people to marry should be subject to vote? Do you believe that the rights of asians to obtain a driver's license should be subject to vote? Do you believe that the rights of women to vote should be subject to a majority vote???

    Do you believe that these rights should be subject to removal or not granted based upon that majority vote?

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