View Poll Results: should civil marriage be aboloshed in favor of holy matrimony only?

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  • Yes, because it will stop gay marriage

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  • Yes, because everybody in the US should be part of a religion

    0 0%
  • Yes, because most people in the US do not want there to be gay marriage

    0 0%
  • Yes, because there should never have been civil marriage in the first place

    6 17.14%
  • No, because gays can also get married in some churches

    8 22.86%
  • No, because people should be free to also have no religion and be able to marry

    26 74.29%
  • No, because most people support gay marriage

    9 25.71%
  • No, because it is right that there is something like civil marriage

    11 31.43%
  • I don't care, I am already married and I do not plan to re-marry

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  • I am unmarried and will never marry, I hate being shackled to some man/woman

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Thread: Republican Steve King wants an abolish civil marriage in the United States

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    Re: Republican Steve King wants an abolish civil marriage in the United States

    Quote Originally Posted by Peter King View Post
    Yes, angry over the defeat in the supreme court, some republican politicians have gone into crazy mode.

    Representative Steve King says:

    "So I'm calling upon the states, just abolish civil marriage, let's go back to holy matrimony the way it began, do that alone,". "In the next few days I'll be introducing legislation to do just that."


    So what do we think? In a nation that is getting less religious, he wants to abolish the right of people to have a civil marriage purely because he wants to stop gays from marrying.

    Here are a few problems with what he proposes (IMHO)

    1. how is this going to play with the supreme court by discriminating against non-religious people who would be unable to marry anymore due to this fool's possible proposal

    2. and this is a biggie some priests do marry gays and lesbians in a holy matrimony!!!!!!!!!!. So his big plan to make gay marriage impossible is in fact achieving nothing. He is just making a total ass of himself.

    3. the republican party does at some time want another president from their party in the white house because attitudes like this will not go down well with the voters (who are largely in favor of gay marriage).

    Steve King also said: "It's not the will of the people to have same sex marriage, now there's no point in having civil marriage in this country whatsoever,".

    He does have internet right? He does know that the opinion polls show that a big majority of Americans support gay marriage? Or is he just totally out of touch with reality?

    But here is the question, do you agree with republican Steve King, civil marriage has to be abolished in the US in favor of holy matrimony only?
    The First Amendment to the U.S. Constitution guarantees freedom of religion, that includes ANY religion, even if it acknowledges no Supreme Being. For Mr. King to have what he wants would require a constitutional convention. Then, perhaps, we might really discover what it is that the sovereign American people actually do want

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    Re: Republican Steve King wants an abolish civil marriage in the United States

    Quote Originally Posted by radcen View Post
    People who say "Where's the poll?" within the first 10 minutes of a poll thread being created should be permanently banned.
    Why? It was a CIVIL question.

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    Re: Republican Steve King wants an abolish civil marriage in the United States

    Quote Originally Posted by Athrawan View Post
    The First Amendment to the U.S. Constitution guarantees freedom of religion, that includes ANY religion, even if it acknowledges no Supreme Being. For Mr. King to have what he wants would require a constitutional convention. Then, perhaps, we might really discover what it is that the sovereign American people actually do want
    I would assume that most people do not want what mister King wants to have happen.
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    Re: Republican Steve King wants an abolish civil marriage in the United States

    Quote Originally Posted by pphhrogg View Post
    Why? It was a CIVIL question.
    I don't mind. It just took me a bit more time to think up the best way to ask it. I had to change it several times before I was happy.
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    Re: Republican Steve King wants an abolish civil marriage in the United States

    Quote Originally Posted by Lursa View Post
    There ya go.
    Then what is the problem with those things? I'm really confused now. We have ways to set up relationships, via marriage licenses, adoption contracts/records, and birth certificates (and in some limited cases court paperwork), and other relationships stem from these papers. But I don't see what the issue is if you are saying we should have these but the government should stay out of these things. They are the ones that issue or approve these. You send the birth certificate information to the government (office of vital statistics) when your child is born. You go there to get a license, and either you or your officiant returns the license once it is signed and you get an official copy of either eventually (usually in the mail). That is it. The government then only uses the paperwork to check to ensure that you have the connections you claim to have via that official paperwork.
    "A woman is like a teabag, you never know how strong she is until she gets in hot water." - Eleanor Roosevelt

    Keep your religion out of other people's marriages.

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    Re: Republican Steve King wants an abolish civil marriage in the United States

    Quote Originally Posted by Peter Grimm View Post
    Tell me how a strong modern woman can sit here and say that women need men to pay them an allowance. If we're truly equal then a woman can work as easily as a man can. If she chooses not to or would rather stay home, then that's her choice, but have some pride and take ownership of that choice
    Who said it had to be a woman who was the one to stay home, sacrificing good job experience so that someone was there to watch the children, take care of the house, while someone else worked to provide money for the family? Either spouse can get alimony. And either person would be sacrificing provable workforce experience, possibly an education in order to take care of the children, the household.
    "A woman is like a teabag, you never know how strong she is until she gets in hot water." - Eleanor Roosevelt

    Keep your religion out of other people's marriages.

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    Re: Republican Steve King wants an abolish civil marriage in the United States

    Quote Originally Posted by roguenuke View Post
    Who said it had to be a woman who was the one to stay home, sacrificing good job experience so that someone was there to watch the children, take care of the house, while someone else worked to provide money for the family? Either spouse can get alimony. And either person would be sacrificing provable workforce experience, possibly an education in order to take care of the children, the household.
    The whole system was set up to baby women. Like child support laws it was only extended to shut men up. Of course, plenty of men are still opposed to both and want them to end.

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    Re: Republican Steve King wants an abolish civil marriage in the United States

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    The whole system was set up to baby women. Like child support laws it was only extended to shut men up. Of course, plenty of men are still opposed to both and want them to end.
    It is still equal between men and women.

    In the past, women could not hold most jobs and was expected to stay home and care for the children and her husband, so if a man left her, she was trapped working a limited number of professions, especially if she had no higher education or training. Women were getting screwed. Now that men are actually staying home as the homemakers and primarey caregivers of children as well, then alimony should apply in those situations too.
    "A woman is like a teabag, you never know how strong she is until she gets in hot water." - Eleanor Roosevelt

    Keep your religion out of other people's marriages.

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    Re: Republican Steve King wants an abolish civil marriage in the United States

    Quote Originally Posted by roguenuke View Post
    It is still equal between men and women.

    In the past, women could not hold most jobs and was expected to stay home and care for the children and her husband, so if a man left her, she was trapped working a limited number of professions, especially if she had no higher education or training. Women were getting screwed. Now that men are actually staying home as the homemakers and primarey caregivers of children as well, then alimony should apply in those situations too.
    Alimony should end. You should not be paid because you made a bad decision that you will pay for in the future. If men want to join "the don't work and screw my life over" club they can, but the system to support them needs to end.

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    Re: Republican Steve King wants an abolish civil marriage in the United States

    well, as we've basically given up promoting nuclear families as benefiting society, the government might as well give up the whole marriage thing.

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