View Poll Results: should civil marriage be aboloshed in favor of holy matrimony only?

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  • Yes, because it will stop gay marriage

    0 0%
  • Yes, because everybody in the US should be part of a religion

    0 0%
  • Yes, because most people in the US do not want there to be gay marriage

    0 0%
  • Yes, because there should never have been civil marriage in the first place

    6 17.14%
  • No, because gays can also get married in some churches

    8 22.86%
  • No, because people should be free to also have no religion and be able to marry

    26 74.29%
  • No, because most people support gay marriage

    9 25.71%
  • No, because it is right that there is something like civil marriage

    11 31.43%
  • I don't care, I am already married and I do not plan to re-marry

    0 0%
  • I am unmarried and will never marry, I hate being shackled to some man/woman

    0 0%
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Thread: Republican Steve King wants an abolish civil marriage in the United States

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    Re: Republican Steve King wants an abolish civil marriage in the United States

    Quote Originally Posted by Peter Grimm View Post
    So a woman is compensated for not working....welcome to 2015 lol
    Why is this so damnably hard to understand?

    The woman is compensated because of lost economic opportunity because she left the workforce and worked in the home. In the NYC market a woman technologist making $100,000/yr can expect that salary to go up by 50%, at least, in 20 years. She leaves the workforce to raise kids, kids grow up and she and her husband get divorced. She is not getting a 150K job. She may not even be employable in her field. Hell she may wind up as a cashier someplace. That's due to a decision that was, presumably, jointly made by her and her husband. You don't believe her former husband owes her anything to make up in part for the money she cannot earn because she was out of the market raising their kids?

    And I'd point out anyone who suggests raising kids and taking care of home is not "working" is naive at best. I assume you don't have kids so you may not actually realize this.
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    Re: Republican Steve King wants an abolish civil marriage in the United States

    Quote Originally Posted by roguenuke View Post
    It is, via the marriage license or the birth certificate or the adoption record.
    There ya go.
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    Re: Republican Steve King wants an abolish civil marriage in the United States

    Quote Originally Posted by Gaius46 View Post
    Why is this so damnably hard to understand?

    The woman is compensated because of lost economic opportunity because she left the workforce and worked in the home. In the NYC market a woman technologist making $100,000/yr can expect that salary to go up by 50%, at least, in 20 years. She leaves the workforce to raise kids, kids grow up and she and her husband get divorced. She is not getting a 150K job. She may not even be employable in her field. Hell she may wind up as a cashier someplace. That's due to a decision that was, presumably, jointly made by her and her husband. You don't believe her former husband owes her anything to make up in part for the money she cannot earn because she was out of the market raising their kids?

    And I'd point out anyone who suggests raising kids and taking care of home is not "working" is naive at best. I assume you don't have kids so you may not actually realize this.
    Who else can you name that is compensated because of lost economic opportunity because they decided to leave the workforce?

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    Re: Republican Steve King wants an abolish civil marriage in the United States

    Quote Originally Posted by Peter Grimm View Post
    So a woman is compensated for not working....welcome to 2015 lol
    Not working? Caring for the home, children, shopping (yeah, you take a kid or 2 with you while you run all your errands and grocery shot), etc. is not working?

    It's working more and harder than alot of middle management desk jockeys.
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    Re: Republican Steve King wants an abolish civil marriage in the United States

    Quote Originally Posted by Gaius46 View Post
    Why is this so damnably hard to understand?

    The woman is compensated because of lost economic opportunity because she left the workforce and worked in the home. In the NYC market a woman technologist making $100,000/yr can expect that salary to go up by 50%, at least, in 20 years. She leaves the workforce to raise kids, kids grow up and she and her husband get divorced. She is not getting a 150K job. She may not even be employable in her field. Hell she may wind up as a cashier someplace. That's due to a decision that was, presumably, jointly made by her and her husband. You don't believe her former husband owes her anything to make up in part for the money she cannot earn because she was out of the market raising their kids?

    And I'd point out anyone who suggests raising kids and taking care of home is not "working" is naive at best. I assume you don't have kids so you may not actually realize this.
    That's ridiculous. Nobody forced her not to work. Plenty of women work and have kids, my mother did it, for example. That's why maternity leave exists.

    The choice not to work is a CHOICE some women make as adults, which is fine, but nobody else is responsible for the choices she makes

    It's not right that she chooses to stay home and not work, bangs the pool boy, and then gets paid for all her years of not working

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    Re: Republican Steve King wants an abolish civil marriage in the United States

    Quote Originally Posted by Lursa View Post
    Not working? Caring for the home, children, shopping (yeah, you take a kid or 2 with you while you run all your errands and grocery shot), etc. is not working?

    It's working more and harder than alot of middle management desk jockeys.
    Because all stay at home moms take care of the house.

    And taking kids shopping if the kid is well behaved is pretty much no big thing at all. If the kids parents aren't complete slugs their kid should be well behaved enough to not be a complete disaster in the store. If the mother is however struggling with her kid in the store all the time then chances are she isn't worth much as a mom anyways.

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    Re: Republican Steve King wants an abolish civil marriage in the United States

    Quote Originally Posted by Lursa View Post
    Not working? Caring for the home, children, shopping (yeah, you take a kid or 2 with you while you run all your errands and grocery shot), etc. is not working?

    It's working more and harder than alot of middle management desk jockeys.
    What's the going rate for a nanny where you live?

    I could hire a maid for 100 bucks here in Texas to deep clean my entire house, and I can pay a babysitter 10 bucks an hour to watch the kids

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    Re: Republican Steve King wants an abolish civil marriage in the United States

    Quote Originally Posted by Peter Grimm View Post
    That's ridiculous. Nobody forced her not to work. Plenty of women work and have kids, my mother did it, for example. That's why maternity leave exists.

    The choice not to work is a CHOICE some women make as adults, which is fine, but nobody else is responsible for the choices she makes

    It's not right that she chooses to stay home and not work, bangs the pool boy, and then gets paid for all her years of not working
    Did you or did you not see the "joint decision" part of my statement?

    And the husband is just as likely banging someone at work - not that it really matters one way or the other.
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    Re: Republican Steve King wants an abolish civil marriage in the United States

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    Who else can you name that is compensated because of lost economic opportunity because they decided to leave the workforce?
    Again "jointly decided." If it's a decision both made - and in any stable relationship I'd wager that that is the case - the woman doesn't make the decision alone.
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    Re: Republican Steve King wants an abolish civil marriage in the United States

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    Because all stay at home moms take care of the house.

    And taking kids shopping if the kid is well behaved is pretty much no big thing at all. If the kids parents aren't complete slugs their kid should be well behaved enough to not be a complete disaster in the store. If the mother is however struggling with her kid in the store all the time then chances are she isn't worth much as a mom anyways.
    Many - even most - do. Cut the family income in half, add another mouth to feed, and you really can't afford to pay for housekeepers.
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