View Poll Results: should civil marriage be aboloshed in favor of holy matrimony only?

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  • Yes, because it will stop gay marriage

    0 0%
  • Yes, because everybody in the US should be part of a religion

    0 0%
  • Yes, because most people in the US do not want there to be gay marriage

    0 0%
  • Yes, because there should never have been civil marriage in the first place

    6 17.14%
  • No, because gays can also get married in some churches

    8 22.86%
  • No, because people should be free to also have no religion and be able to marry

    26 74.29%
  • No, because most people support gay marriage

    9 25.71%
  • No, because it is right that there is something like civil marriage

    11 31.43%
  • I don't care, I am already married and I do not plan to re-marry

    0 0%
  • I am unmarried and will never marry, I hate being shackled to some man/woman

    0 0%
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Thread: Republican Steve King wants an abolish civil marriage in the United States

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    Re: Republican Steve King wants an abolish civil marriage in the United States

    Quote Originally Posted by Eric7216 View Post
    Don't you think that you are projecting your own biases?
    The question to me has to do with why does the government care what your personal living arrangements are, or what your sexual persuasions are, and why should the government give out special benefits on the bases of those living arrangements/sexualities?
    What possible concern does government have in this and why?
    Perhaps it is only coming up now because it is so clear now how biased these government benefits are. The LGBT community is right-it is discriminatory to give these special benefits to some but simply giving them to a few percent more people doesn't make it less discriminatory. Many people today are single for life, by choice, by lack of opportunity, or by discriminatory laws that don't allow one to marry a sibling or other relative (platonically or not). Where do they go for relief from discrimination?
    He's not calling for the end of marriage just of civil unions. This is a temper tantrum to stop gay marriage.

    As a married person I'm sure he didn't just start realizing the host of benefits conferred to married couples over people that co-habitats. If someone has a view that the government should have nothing to do with marriage at all I don't agree but it's a valid point. Pulling the benefits away solely because you don't like a Supreme Court decision is petty.
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    Re: Republican Steve King wants an abolish civil marriage in the United States

    Quote Originally Posted by Korimyr the Rat View Post
    Your grasp of basic logic continues to astound me. Yes, that is exactly what I am saying: single people should pay higher taxes in order to encourage them to get married.

    Try not to swallow your tongue while composing your reply.
    wtf? Now it's the govt job and motivation to encourage people to marry? That is WAY out of scope of the Const and the govt.

    Screw that.

    It should be encouraging people that cant afford kids...married or not...NOT to reproduce.

    Edit: Sorry Korimyr. I normally agree with you and find you a very reasonable poster. The statement just irritated me as I do not, obviously, see that as any role the govt should play.
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    Re: Republican Steve King wants an abolish civil marriage in the United States

    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post
    I guess you aren't voting for any of the Democratic candidates, considering they're all older than this "geriatric". Or do you just suffer from acute bigotry against old Republican people?
    I suffer from bigotry towards whiny people.
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    Re: Republican Steve King wants an abolish civil marriage in the United States

    Quote Originally Posted by Peter Grimm View Post
    Sorry, an adult human being doesn't need an allowance, allowances are for children.

    Yes, someone who left the job market and gets a divorce should have to get a job to support themselves, of course.
    Allowance? I don't think so. What this would be is compensation to one party by another for an economic harm done to one because a decision that was jointly made that benefitted both.
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    Re: Republican Steve King wants an abolish civil marriage in the United States

    Quote Originally Posted by Lursa View Post
    Cant all that just be recorded in the courts, by magistrates, etc anyway? Stamped by a notary...boom! So noted. And now your kid can inherit your stuff, visit you in the hospital, be recognized legitimately in custody hearings, etc?
    Sure it could but that still involves the government. And really isn't a whole lot different from what happens now.
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    Re: Republican Steve King wants an abolish civil marriage in the United States

    Quote Originally Posted by Korimyr the Rat View Post
    Marriage is the foundation of civilized society and government has a compelling interest in encouraging it.
    Bull. Marriage has nothing to do with the foundation of civilized society.

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    Re: Republican Steve King wants an abolish civil marriage in the United States

    Quote Originally Posted by Gaius46 View Post
    Allowance? I don't think so. What this would be is compensation to one party by another for an economic harm done to one because a decision that was jointly made that benefitted both.
    Oh geez. There is no reason to pay her for staying home. If however you agreed to pay her to stay at home I suppose you have an obligation to do so.

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    Re: Republican Steve King wants an abolish civil marriage in the United States

    Quote Originally Posted by Gaius46 View Post
    Sure it could but that still involves the government. And really isn't a whole lot different from what happens now.
    I know. But then everyone could record those things, and implement them, equally. Married under whatever definition or religion they chose, whatever their committment...or no committment except to the kids, polygamists, single people, whatever.
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    Re: Republican Steve King wants an abolish civil marriage in the United States

    Quote Originally Posted by Korimyr the Rat View Post
    Your grasp of basic logic continues to astound me. Yes, that is exactly what I am saying: single people should pay higher taxes in order to encourage them to get married.

    Try not to swallow your tongue while composing your reply.
    So the government gets to steal more of my money because I didn't enter into a contract with them? That seems a bit ****ed up.

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    Re: Republican Steve King wants an abolish civil marriage in the United States

    Quote Originally Posted by Peter Grimm View Post
    Actually, I've been saying this for years. Civil marriage is ridiculous and should have no place in society.

    My reasoning is different though..... I'm a single guy, and I pay taxes. If I were a married guy, I would pay less taxes. That, to me, isn't fair... and for that reason and that reason alone, I don't believe the government (especially the IRS) should be involved in marriage
    The civil institution of marriage is not only "tax breaks."
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