View Poll Results: should civil marriage be aboloshed in favor of holy matrimony only?

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  • Yes, because it will stop gay marriage

    0 0%
  • Yes, because everybody in the US should be part of a religion

    0 0%
  • Yes, because most people in the US do not want there to be gay marriage

    0 0%
  • Yes, because there should never have been civil marriage in the first place

    6 17.14%
  • No, because gays can also get married in some churches

    8 22.86%
  • No, because people should be free to also have no religion and be able to marry

    26 74.29%
  • No, because most people support gay marriage

    9 25.71%
  • No, because it is right that there is something like civil marriage

    11 31.43%
  • I don't care, I am already married and I do not plan to re-marry

    0 0%
  • I am unmarried and will never marry, I hate being shackled to some man/woman

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Thread: Republican Steve King wants an abolish civil marriage in the United States

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    Re: Republican Steve King wants an abolish civil marriage in the United States

    Quote Originally Posted by notquiteright View Post
    Ah the 'I have no one to play with so ya'll can't play' school of thought.

    If you ever convince someone of equal or opposite sex to wed, you'll appreciate the tax bennies of marriage and dependents as a family isn't cheap to raise and wages rarely are boosted per child...

    I'd wager a shiny nickel you'd be one of the first ones to decry removing the tax bennies if you did marry as you seem far more self centered than willing to understand something called the greater good.

    Are you planning on staying single or is it a temporary condition you want the entire tax code to be changed for?
    You can have tax benefits for getting married, but I want equal tax benefits for being single. There is no reason for inequality on this issue

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    Re: Republican Steve King wants an abolish civil marriage in the United States

    Quote Originally Posted by Gaius46 View Post
    What about spouses who sacrifice their careers to raise children? Are they able to support themselves? A woman, or man for that matter, going back into the job market after caring for kids for a couple of decades is going to take a significant financial hit. Should that be uncompensated if a couple decides to split up?
    Sorry, an adult human being doesn't need an allowance, allowances are for children.

    Yes, someone who left the job market and gets a divorce should have to get a job to support themselves, of course.

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    Re: Republican Steve King wants an abolish civil marriage in the United States

    Quote Originally Posted by Peter Grimm View Post
    You can have tax benefits for getting married, but I want equal tax benefits for being single. There is no reason for inequality on this issue
    Marriage is the foundation of civilized society and government has a compelling interest in encouraging it.

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    Re: Republican Steve King wants an abolish civil marriage in the United States

    Quote Originally Posted by Korimyr the Rat View Post
    Marriage is the foundation of civilized society and government has a compelling interest in encouraging it.
    Fine, it can encourage marriage I have no problem with that, but I want the same equal tax breaks that a married guy gets. There shouldn't be inequality on that issue.

    I'm not saying take away tax benefits to married ppl, but I am saying give single ppl those same tax write offs

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    Re: Republican Steve King wants an abolish civil marriage in the United States

    Quote Originally Posted by Peter Grimm View Post
    Fine, it can encourage marriage I have no problem with that, but I want the same equal tax breaks that a married guy gets. There shouldn't be inequality on that issue.

    I'm not saying take away tax benefits to married ppl, but I am saying give single ppl those same tax write offs
    Then it's not a benefit for married couples and it doesn't encourage people to get married.

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    Re: Republican Steve King wants an abolish civil marriage in the United States

    Quote Originally Posted by Korimyr the Rat View Post
    Then it's not a benefit for married couples and it doesn't encourage people to get married.
    Sure it does, why wouldn't it?

    And why do we need to encourage people to get married...aren't they encouraged by the thought of spending the rest of their lives each other?

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    Re: Republican Steve King wants an abolish civil marriage in the United States

    Quote Originally Posted by Peter Grimm View Post
    Fine, it can encourage marriage I have no problem with that, but I want the same equal tax breaks that a married guy gets. There shouldn't be inequality on that issue.

    I'm not saying take away tax benefits to married ppl, but I am saying give single ppl those same tax write offs

    Can you provide an example of a specific tax break that a married couple (the married couple being two people of course) gets that is not available to a single person?

    For example the deduction per person for the 2015 taxable year was $6,300, for married filing jointly it's $12,600 (x2 for two people).


    Deductions for dependent children of course don't matter because the same deduction is available whether you are single or married.


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    Re: Republican Steve King wants an abolish civil marriage in the United States

    Quote Originally Posted by Peter Grimm View Post
    Sure it does, why wouldn't it?
    Because if single people get the same tax break, there's no difference between being single and being married. Therefore, it's not an incentive.

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    Re: Republican Steve King wants an abolish civil marriage in the United States

    Quote Originally Posted by Korimyr the Rat View Post
    Because if single people get the same tax break, there's no difference between being single and being married. Therefore, it's not an incentive.
    So really what you're saying is you want single ppl like me to pay higher taxes, right?

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    Re: Republican Steve King wants an abolish civil marriage in the United States

    Quote Originally Posted by Peter Grimm View Post
    So really what you're saying is you want single ppl like me to pay higher taxes, right?
    Your grasp of basic logic continues to astound me. Yes, that is exactly what I am saying: single people should pay higher taxes in order to encourage them to get married.

    Try not to swallow your tongue while composing your reply.

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