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Thread: Drowning people out.

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    Drowning people out.

    Would you consider drowning out people from being able to say something as a possible violation of someone's freedom of speech? For instance there was a time that Christians often drowned out the LGBT community in order to try and get them to shut up and as a way of intimidating them into submission.
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    Re: Drowning people out.

    It's not a cut and dried issue.

    If the discussion is happening in the public realm (ie. on a street corner) then they can try to drown each other out to their hearts content. However, in a private forum (ie. in the middle of a church service) then the property rights of the facility owners come into play even if the discussion is advertised as being open to the public.

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    Re: Drowning people out.

    This is neither a good nor a bad thing, necessarily, but technically drowning someone out is freedom of speech.

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    Re: Drowning people out.

    It might be rude and even wrong, given the circumstances, but I believe only the government can violate someone's freedom of speech.

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    Re: Drowning people out.

    No. One group being louder than another group is not a violation of freedom of speech.
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    Re: Drowning people out.

    A violation of free speech?

    That's silly.
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    Re: Drowning people out.

    Drowning people out is an exercise in free speech. While I think it is abusive of that protection, preventing it by law would be a clear violation of the right to free speech you think you are protecting.
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    Re: Drowning people out.

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    Would you consider drowning out people from being able to say something as a possible violation of someone's freedom of speech? For instance there was a time that Christians often drowned out the LGBT community in order to try and get them to shut up and as a way of intimidating them into submission.
    No.

    Not in law.

    In common practice however, it is employed in various ways, from Hillary Clinton's supporters trying to silence criticism, constant belaboring that something is "old news" is a form of it, attacking the individual is another.

    Having said that, there is a right for anyone in the audience to say "let him speak", and if in the majority silence the hecklers.

    Other than that you have democracy, defined at one time as "anarchy".
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    Re: Drowning people out.

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    Would you consider drowning out people from being able to say something as a possible violation of someone's freedom of speech? For instance there was a time that Christians often drowned out the LGBT community in order to try and get them to shut up and as a way of intimidating them into submission.

    I'd appreciate it if you'd cite at least one or two instances of this actually happening, preferably within the past ten years for the sake of relevance, because it is news to me.


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    Re: Drowning people out.

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    Would you consider drowning out people from being able to say something as a possible violation of someone's freedom of speech? For instance there was a time that Christians often drowned out the LGBT community in order to try and get them to shut up and as a way of intimidating them into submission.
    No, I don't see that as a violation. Eliminating them from making a speech another group opposes certainly is.

    For example, students storming a stage and grabbing the microphone of someone giving a speech in opposition to illegal immigration. That would be a clear violation.
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