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Thread: Drowning people out.

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    Re: Drowning people out.

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    Vandalism.
    I guess to whomever owned the facility/podium/microphone. What would it be to the person who wasn't allowed to speak?
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    Re: Drowning people out.

    Quote Originally Posted by ocean515 View Post
    I guess to whomever owned the facility/podium/microphone. What would it be to the person who wasn't allowed to speak?
    Shaking head here. It would be rude. It would be interference. It is NOT a civil rights violation.


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    Re: Drowning people out.

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    Shaking head here. It would be rude. It would be interference. It is NOT a civil rights violation.
    Interesting. Violating someone's First Amendment rights carries no repercussions. I don't know about that.
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    Re: Drowning people out.

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    Shaking head here. It would be rude. It would be interference. It is NOT a civil rights violation.
    I disagree!

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    Re: Drowning people out.

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    Would you consider drowning out people from being able to say something as a possible violation of someone's freedom of speech? For instance there was a time that Christians often drowned out the LGBT community in order to try and get them to shut up and as a way of intimidating them into submission.
    i could invent one where it would but its not a yes/no answer. . .

    its circumstantial . . .
    who is doing the drowning out
    who is being drowned out
    what form does the drowning out take
    where does the drowning out take place
    and what is exactly being drowned out

    they all matter
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    Re: Drowning people out.

    It depends on how. One position being more popular or more loudly advocated is just having more speech. That's great. But when a few powerful or wealthy people silence everyone else with that power, that's not more speech. That's a little bit of speech being amplified to an astounding volume. More voices added to the discussion are better, and yes, some voices are going to be lonesome. That's what happens when you share space with other people.
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    Re: Drowning people out.

    It'd be hilarious to see gay bashers shoved into the closet, as they figure out no one will listen to or associate with them, much as they've done to lgbt for the longest time.

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    Re: Drowning people out.

    Quote Originally Posted by ocean515 View Post
    Interesting. Violating someone's First Amendment rights carries no repercussions. I don't know about that.
    It is impossible for me or any other individual to violate the right to freedom of speech for you or anyone else.

    I could beat you unconscious with my fists or an object, but that's assault/battery, or something...not a free speech violation.
    I could tie you up and gag you, but that's kidnapping or restraint without consent, or something....not a free speech violation.
    I could kill you, but that's murder or manslaughter or something...not a free speech violation.

    I could yell loudly, possibly with artificial aids (megaphone, microphone, speakers, or something like that), so as to prevent your speech from being heard...but you are still free to speak, and anyone near enough can hear you...not a free speech violation.


    Effectively, no matter what I do, I cannot prevent you from speaking without violating some law. Only the government can beat, stun, gas, imprison, or kill you without it being illegal.

    And there's no way you can be stopped from speaking without your consent unless one of those methods is used.
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    Re: Drowning people out.

    No, freedom of speech is the freedom from governmental interference with speech. Private individuals shutting somebody down has nothing to do with freedom of speech. In fact, drowning people out is speech.

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    Re: Drowning people out.

    No.

    Apart from which the example cited is in dire need of being evidenced. Where did that happen and when? Link?

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