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Thread: US Admits Paying Terrorists For Services Rendered In Syria

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    US Admits Paying Terrorists For Services Rendered In Syria

    "By Brandon Turbeville

    June 30, 2015 "Information Clearing House" - "Activist Post" - When researchers such as myself have reported that the United States is funding al-Qaeda, Nusra, ISIS and other related terror organizations in Syria, we were not kidding. Still, despite the fact that even the U.S. government itself has admitted that it was funding terroristsdirectly and indirectly through Saudi Arabia, the suggestion was met with disbelief, ridicule, or either entirely ignored."...
    "According to the Pentagon, Syrian “rebels” being trained and “vetted” by the United States are receiving “compensation” to the tune of anywhere between $250 to $400 per month to act as America’s proxy forces in the Middle East. Reuters reports that the payment levels were confirmed by the Pentagon and also that the Secretary of Defense Ashton Carter and Navy Commander Elissa Smith both separately admitted the fact that these “new” terrorists are receiving a stipend."...
    "Of course, “human rights” and the “rule of law” have never been concerns before, even as the United States has funded, armed, trained, and directed jihadists on the ground from the very beginning of the Syrian crisis. Neither has there been any concern over the presence of “moderate” rebels that have never actually existed in Syria. After all, it should be remembered that the United States own Defense Intelligence Agency was recently forced to release and declassify documents which admitted that not only did the US know that the “rebellion” was made up of al-Qaeda and Nusra forces but that these organizations and similar groups were attempting to create a “Salafist principality” in the east of Syria and West of Iraq. The DIA docs also show that the US was supporting all of these efforts. In reality, of course, the US was directing these efforts.

    Make no mistake, the United States is not funding “moderate vetted rebels” to fight ISIS or al-Qaeda. The US is funding jihadist terrorists and mercenaries to work alongside ISIS and al-Qaeda (if they are not members of these organizations already) to overthrow the secular government of Bashar al-Assad. Virtually every person of a moderate persuasion in Syria has long come over to the side of the Syrian government. Indeed, there was never such a thing as a moderate rebel in Syria to begin with and the reality on the ground has not changed since."

    Who's side is the USA on?
    Are we funding terrorists?
    Does the USA want bragging rights for this?
    Who are the good guys?
    Is it OK to fund terrorists?


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    Re: US Admits Paying Terrorists For Services Rendered In Syria

    We have been helping out AQ since they began and our actions led to the creation of ISIS, there is no doubt the US government is fueling the war on terror for the military-industrial complex. Meanwhile the conservatives buy the party line like a cop to a doughnut shop.

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    Re: US Admits Paying Terrorists For Services Rendered In Syria

    Why do you ask the question in such a naïve way? Is there any question in the mind of a sane person? Obvious someone in the federal govt is screwing up royally if the story is true. Anything else?

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    Re: US Admits Paying Terrorists For Services Rendered In Syria

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    Why do you ask the question in such a naïve way? Is there any question in the mind of a sane person? Obvious someone in the federal govt is screwing up royally if the story is true. Anything else?
    Yes, how is this going to get Hillary elected POTUS?
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    Re: US Admits Paying Terrorists For Services Rendered In Syria

    Quote Originally Posted by DaveFagan View Post
    "By Brandon Turbeville

    June 30, 2015 "Information Clearing House" - "Activist Post" - When researchers such as myself have reported that the United States is funding al-Qaeda, Nusra, ISIS and other related terror organizations in Syria, we were not kidding. Still, despite the fact that even the U.S. government itself has admitted that it was funding terroristsdirectly and indirectly through Saudi Arabia, the suggestion was met with disbelief, ridicule, or either entirely ignored."...
    "According to the Pentagon, Syrian “rebels” being trained and “vetted” by the United States are receiving “compensation” to the tune of anywhere between $250 to $400 per month to act as America’s proxy forces in the Middle East. Reuters reports that the payment levels were confirmed by the Pentagon and also that the Secretary of Defense Ashton Carter and Navy Commander Elissa Smith both separately admitted the fact that these “new” terrorists are receiving a stipend."...
    "Of course, “human rights” and the “rule of law” have never been concerns before, even as the United States has funded, armed, trained, and directed jihadists on the ground from the very beginning of the Syrian crisis. Neither has there been any concern over the presence of “moderate” rebels that have never actually existed in Syria. After all, it should be remembered that the United States own Defense Intelligence Agency was recently forced to release and declassify documents which admitted that not only did the US know that the “rebellion” was made up of al-Qaeda and Nusra forces but that these organizations and similar groups were attempting to create a “Salafist principality” in the east of Syria and West of Iraq. The DIA docs also show that the US was supporting all of these efforts. In reality, of course, the US was directing these efforts.

    Make no mistake, the United States is not funding “moderate vetted rebels” to fight ISIS or al-Qaeda. The US is funding jihadist terrorists and mercenaries to work alongside ISIS and al-Qaeda (if they are not members of these organizations already) to overthrow the secular government of Bashar al-Assad. Virtually every person of a moderate persuasion in Syria has long come over to the side of the Syrian government. Indeed, there was never such a thing as a moderate rebel in Syria to begin with and the reality on the ground has not changed since."

    Who's side is the USA on?
    Are we funding terrorists?
    Does the USA want bragging rights for this?
    Who are the good guys?
    Is it OK to fund terrorists?

    I would say that that depends on the individual organization. When the UN takes r2p and does it, we will no longer be using US lives and treasure and should desist. Until then, anything goes that reduces our costs, while not hampering goal achievement.

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    Re: US Admits Paying Terrorists For Services Rendered In Syria

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    Why do you ask the question in such a naïve way? Is there any question in the mind of a sane person? Obvious someone in the federal govt is screwing up royally if the story is true. Anything else?
    True. But each story must be looked at on its own merits and for that, you need more info.

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    Re: US Admits Paying Terrorists For Services Rendered In Syria

    Quote Originally Posted by DaveFagan View Post
    Who's side is the USA on?
    Are we funding terrorists?
    Does the USA want bragging rights for this?
    Who are the good guys?
    Is it OK to fund terrorists?
    Funding rebels =/= funding terrorists. The FSA, for example, is not a terror group but a militia group that fights Assad's regime.
    The article is claiming the US had admitted to funding terrorists directly and indirectly, however in the article provided in reference, this article, there is no such admittance made by the US. The only reference there to the terrorists is in the last paragraph; "officials’ fears that any assistance could wind up in the hands of jihadists".

    The US may have indirectly let organizations such as al-Nusra and ISIS in Syria and Iraq put their hands on US weapons and ammunition by not being careful enough with the droppings, but that is far from being "funding terrorism" and certainly not doing so "directly". The article is ridiculous.
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    Re: US Admits Paying Terrorists For Services Rendered In Syria

    Quote Originally Posted by PoS View Post
    We have been helping out AQ since they began and our actions led to the creation of ISIS, there is no doubt the US government is fueling the war on terror for the military-industrial complex.
    You can provide evidence of your claim? I guessing you can't.

    Quote Originally Posted by PoS View Post
    Meanwhile the conservatives buy the party line like a cop to a doughnut shop.
    You mean like Bush created ISIS? That party line stuff?
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    Re: US Admits Paying Terrorists For Services Rendered In Syria

    Quote Originally Posted by Μολὼν λαβέ View Post
    Yes, how is this going to get Hillary elected POTUS?
    No doubt there's an angle there somewhere.
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    Re: US Admits Paying Terrorists For Services Rendered In Syria

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    Why do you ask the question in such a naïve way? Is there any question in the mind of a sane person? Obvious someone in the federal govt is screwing up royally if the story is true. Anything else?
    Nothing naive about it. The question was raised to address the hypocrisy of USA policies. We do not seem to be the good guys. This is official USA gov't policy. Our Military Offense budget is about this. I didn't vote for this.

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