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Thread: Which of the following hypothetical public employees should be fired?

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    Re: Which of the following hypothetical public employees should be fired?

    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post
    Maybe some day you can be a senior manager like me and you'll get to hire and fire a bunch of religious people.
    I'd prefer to be doing other things, but I've already been involved in the hiring process at work. As well as been involved in a conversation with my boss and a few other employees who started changing their availabilities to try to get Sundays off after they were hired with open availabilities, claiming they needed to go to church. My boss told them that they couldn't all get that day off. I pointed out that it wasn't really fair to force people who did have open availabilities to give up their Sundays/Weekends every week just because some people decided to get more religious after they were hired. Guess who she agreed with? You can't do that to your other employees. It is unfair. Especially when you are hired with the understanding that you had open availability and then expect a change to that to be approved but for you to face no repercussions for that, such as being told that there are simply no available hours for you.
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    Keep your religion out of other people's marriages.

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    Re: Which of the following hypothetical public employees should be fired?

    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post
    The user name "americanwoman"....and you're calling her a "he".

    Here's what she said, which was about current status of marriage when applying for licenses:

    Please stop quoting me. You really really annoy me and I'm so tired of having to explain things to you 100 times before you get it. Thanks.
    Do you not know that "divorced" is a legal marital status? She was not referring to people who are legally married there. She was referring to people who have been divorced and therefore sinning in getting remarried in the eyes of some people and their religions.
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    Keep your religion out of other people's marriages.

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    Re: Which of the following hypothetical public employees should be fired?

    Quote Originally Posted by roguenuke View Post
    I'd prefer to be doing other things, but I've already been involved in the hiring process at work. As well as been involved in a conversation with my boss and a few other employees who started changing their availabilities to try to get Sundays off after they were hired with open availabilities, claiming they needed to go to church. My boss told them that they couldn't all get that day off. I pointed out that it wasn't really fair to force people who did have open availabilities to give up their Sundays/Weekends every week just because some people decided to get more religious after they were hired. Guess who she agreed with? You can't do that to your other employees. It is unfair. Especially when you are hired with the understanding that you had open availability and then expect a change to that to be approved but for you to face no repercussions for that, such as being told that there are simply no available hours for you.
    Will you stop with these idiotic posts that are quoting me? You're babbling about Sundays and weekends and people getting religious after they are hired and going to church. You are so off topic it's painful. Stop quoting me.
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    Re: Which of the following hypothetical public employees should be fired?

    Quote Originally Posted by roguenuke View Post
    Do you not know that "divorced" is a legal marital status? She was not referring to people who are legally married there. She was referring to people who have been divorced and therefore sinning in getting remarried in the eyes of some people and their religions.
    I don't want to get dinged so I will only say this. You have posted the most idiotic posts in the world today.

    An adulterer is still married. An adulterer can't apply for a marriage license while he's still married. Which is what I posted.

    Now go annoy someone else with your stupid posts, please. I won't open one of your quotes in here again.
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    Re: Which of the following hypothetical public employees should be fired?

    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post
    Will you stop with these idiotic posts that are quoting me? You're babbling about Sundays and weekends and people getting religious after they are hired and going to church. You are so off topic it's painful. Stop quoting me.
    If you would stop insisting that employees should be accommodated for their religious beliefs, at least by good managers, you wouldn't get the responses from me that you do. Religious beliefs should not be held as more important than anything else in someone's personal life. That is just how it is.
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    Keep your religion out of other people's marriages.

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    Re: Which of the following hypothetical public employees should be fired?

    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post
    And we all know the law, don't we? You asked some hypotheticals and you got some answers. Don't be surprised when not everyone is as anxious to fire an employee as you are. Some people actually value their employees and don't want them to unnecessarily do something that will upset them or make them uncomfortable.
    Well actually, so far you are the only one that seems to think a public employee should be allowed to discriminate without facing some type of disciplinary action. I don't like the idea of anyone being fired, but if you are a public employee it is your responsibility to do your job in a nondiscriminatory manner and to follow the law. If you can't do that, then find another job. However, the notion that a gay couple should go to city hall, take a number and wait in line forever, get to the counter and then be told that they need to wait for someone else to serve their lawful request because this individual doesn't believe they should receive a marriage license because they are gay, is frankly, offensive and it would be no different than a public employee discriminating against citizens based on the race, creed, or sex.
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    Re: Which of the following hypothetical public employees should be fired?

    Quote Originally Posted by SouthernDemocrat View Post
    Well actually, so far you are the only one that seems to think a public employee should be allowed to discriminate without facing some type of disciplinary action. I don't like the idea of anyone being fired, but if you are a public employee it is your responsibility to do your job in a nondiscriminatory manner and to follow the law. If you can't do that, then find another job. However, the notion that a gay couple should go to city hall, take a number and wait in line forever, get to the counter and then be told that they need to wait for someone else to serve their lawful request because this individual doesn't believe they should receive a marriage license because they are gay, is frankly, offensive and it would be no different than a public employee discriminating against citizens based on the race, creed, or sex.
    Oh no, I'm the only one who would not force a Muslim person to issue a liquor license if I had 10 other perfectly competent employees to do it, or myself? How terrible. I should be like everyone else demanding termination of a good employee. I guess I'm not a compassionate liberal like the rest of you.
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    Re: Which of the following hypothetical public employees should be fired?

    Quote Originally Posted by SouthernDemocrat View Post
    They are all just purely hypotheticals.
    Interesting...

    You create a thread based on a hypothetical.

    Sounds rather trollish to me.
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    Re: Which of the following hypothetical public employees should be fired?

    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post
    Oh no, I'm the only one who would not force a Muslim person to issue a liquor license if I had 10 other perfectly competent employees to do it, or myself? How terrible. I should be like everyone else demanding termination of a good employee. I guess I'm not a compassionate liberal like the rest of you.

    Interesting, I don't remember such an outcry a few years ago when Muslim Cab Drivers refused to pick up passengers carrying alcohol or blind people with service does who claimed it was against their religion.


    They lost in court.

    I guess it depends on whose ox is being gored.



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    Re: Which of the following hypothetical public employees should be fired?

    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post
    I don't want to get dinged so I will only say this. You have posted the most idiotic posts in the world today.

    An adulterer is still married. An adulterer can't apply for a marriage license while he's still married. Which is what I posted.

    Now go annoy someone else with your stupid posts, please. I won't open one of your quotes in here again.
    No, an adulterer can be someone who is legally divorced but viewed as still married in the eyes of certain religious people or even whole religions.

    BIBLE VERSES ABOUT ADULTERY AND DIVORCE

    Matthew 19:9 - And I say unto you, Whosoever shall put away his wife, except [it be] for fornication, and shall marry another, committeth adultery: and whoso marrieth her which is put away doth commit adultery.

    You don't think there are Christians out there that take this verse seriously to mean that it doesn't matter if they get legally divorced, unless the Church approves an annulment, they are still married, and therefore committing adultery if they get married to someone else?

    It's pretty easy to see how some people would consider it adultery even if there was a legal divorce.
    "A woman is like a teabag, you never know how strong she is until she gets in hot water." - Eleanor Roosevelt

    Keep your religion out of other people's marriages.

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