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Which of the following hypothetical public employees should be fired?

Select all that apply


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Oh Jesus, Christians moved into number 1 spot.
 
Oh Jesus, Christians moved into number 1 spot.

Probably wouldn't have happened had people not become fatigued of Christians trying to shove their morality down everyone elses throat for the last several centuries...
 
OK, this is a multiple choice, so select all that you feel applies. Which of the hypothetical public employees should be fire or moved to a different position for not doing their job?

Because they are government employees, all those in the hypothetical situations should be fired. Government cannot insert its personal preference over law.
 
Probably wouldn't have happened had people not become fatigued of Christians trying to shove their morality down everyone elses throat for the last several centuries...
Fify
Probably wouldn't have happened had people not become fatigued of SOME Christians trying to shove their morality down everyone elses throat for the last several centuries
 
Fify
Probably wouldn't have happened had people not become fatigued of SOME Christians trying to shove their morality down everyone elses throat for the last several centuries

Oh lord.... lets get all over analytical and nitpicky.

Apparently I must return to adding disclaimers and fine print to my posts.
 
Oh lord.... lets get all over analytical and nitpicky.

Apparently I must return to adding disclaimers and fine print to my posts.

Just having some fun is all.
Happy Canada Day to ya.
 
OK, this is a multiple choice, so select all that you feel applies. Which of the hypothetical public employees should be fire or moved to a different position for not doing their job?

Any public employee, hypothetical or not, should be fired for not doing their job.
 
The only one who should be fired is the "OP" .
Or, this poll servers no good, is wasteful and silly ..
Or, too much info is NOT a good thing !
 
OK, this is a multiple choice, so select all that you feel applies. Which of the hypothetical public employees should be fire or moved to a different position for not doing their job?

I selected all four because all four failed to do their jobs, are unqualified and incompetent, all there reasons are based on subjective foundations and nothing job related so they don't matter.
 
Yeh, this doesn't have any affect on religious freedom at all. :roll:

I see states stopping the marriage licence business all together over this.

This doesn't affect religious freedom at all. Again why do posters try to sell this lie. Also the marriage licenses isn't a business and the state has no reason to stop. It's a LEGAL contract that the government is protecting.
 
Any public employee, hypothetical or not, should be fired for not doing their job.

I fired 20 hypothetical employees just today, and I didn't even give them a reason.
 
This doesn't affect religious freedom at all. Again why do posters try to sell this lie. Also the marriage licenses isn't a business and the state has no reason to stop. It's a LEGAL contract that the government is protecting.

Tell that to the bakers, the venue operators, the printers, the pizza place owners etc that have been intentionally targeted by the homosexual community. Everyone of them was directly affected because of their religious beliefs.
 
Tell that to the bakers, the venue operators, the printers, the pizza place owners etc that have been intentionally targeted by the homosexual community. Everyone of them was directly affected because of their religious beliefs.

Nope. Every one of them was directly affected by the actions they took or claimed to intend to take based on their religious beliefs. There is a difference.
 
Nope. Every one of them was directly affected by the actions they took or claimed to intend to take based on their religious beliefs. There is a difference.

That's your Leftist opinion, lady

You have no idea what was in their minds so you just make something up.
 
That's your Leftist opinion, lady

You have no idea what was in their minds so you just make something up.

So therefore I would have no idea what their real beliefs are, only what their actions were. Which makes me right. Any consequences they faced, whether justified or not, were based on their actions, which they claim were based on their beliefs, but we couldn't know their beliefs because we can't read minds.
 
So therefore I would have no idea what their real beliefs are, only what their actions were. Which makes me right. Any consequences they faced, whether justified or not, were based on their actions, which they claim were based on their beliefs, but we couldn't know their beliefs because we can't read minds.

I can believe they used faith in their decision making process because unlike you, I understand their POV
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Not providing a service or product doesn't entail an action. That would be an inaction.
 
That's your Leftist opinion, lady

You have no idea what was in their minds so you just make something up.

In calling her a "leftist", I'm reminded of some of the extreme socialist types who call anybody a "right winger" if they are anything short of Che Guevara.

Such reactions have more to do with where the accuser stands in the political spectrum than the target.
 
In calling her a "leftist", I'm reminded of some of the extreme socialist types who call anybody a "right winger" if they are anything short of Che Guevara.

Such reactions have more to do with where the accuser stands in the political spectrum than the target.

HER views are based on her biases. I'm quite familiar.
 
In response to the poll, I couldn't vote because I don't think any of them should be fired.

In general terms, government must provide services prescribed by law. If a public official has a genuine ethical objection to a modest part of his or her work, he should declare this and the employer should make arrangements to ensure that the public service continues to be provided while the employee is fully employed on work which does not offend their conscience.

Sometimes, it is not possible to accommodate employees with conscientious objections and they need to be transferred or, in the worst case, made redundant. This is more or less how the law works in the UK, in respect of religious beliefs.

It reminds of a story from a colleague who was in the army. His colleague put in an objection to going to church on Sunday on the alleged grounds of being a sun worshipper. The request was approved. His fellow soldiers then made sure he got up to greet the sun every morning until he became a Christian again!
 
In response to the poll, I couldn't vote because I don't think any of them should be fired.

In general terms, government must provide services prescribed by law. If a public official has a genuine ethical objection to a modest part of his or her work, he should declare this and the employer should make arrangements to ensure that the public service continues to be provided while the employee is fully employed on work which does not offend their conscience.
Wrong. If someone isn't going to be able to do their job, they should be fired.

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It reminds of a story from a colleague who was in the army. His colleague put in an objection to going to church on Sunday on the alleged grounds of being a sun worshipper. The request was approved. His fellow soldiers then made sure he got up to greet the sun every morning until he became a Christian again!

Thats the dumbest story I ever heard. They get to green the sun anwyays in the Army.
 
They all should be relieved of their duties...because in the US we practice a separation between church and State. A public service worker is paid by tax dollars...tax dollars paid by all Americans.
 
Wrong. If someone isn't going to be able to do their job, they should be fired.

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Thats the dumbest story I ever heard. They get to green the sun anwyays in the Army.

The story was for amusement. Your other negative comment is noted. With this level of debate, we'll obviously have to agree to disagree.
 
They all should be relieved of their duties...because in the US we practice a separation between church and State. A public service worker is paid by tax dollars...tax dollars paid by all Americans.
The English law does not have anything to do with the church / state relationship.

I don't know US law but is it really so draconian in every state? You're describing a situation where absolutely no flexibility for conscience is ever afforded. I'd say it would be quite hard to operate a full public service with such a policy, but perhaps it is that draconian and I'm wrong.
 
I fired 20 hypothetical employees just today, and I didn't even give them a reason.

Prepare for some hypothetical litigation. I hope your hypothetical lawyers are good enough.
 
The English law does not have anything to do with the church / state relationship.

I don't know US law but is it really so draconian in every state? You're describing a situation where absolutely no flexibility for conscience is ever afforded. I'd say it would be quite hard to operate a full public service with such a policy, but perhaps it is that draconian and I'm wrong.

I work in two industries where my salary is paid by tax dollars...education and healthcare. I do not get a choice of who I service. If a full blown ISIS member happened to be on my shift at the hospital...I would be fired and my license would be impacted if I refused to care for them. This is no different.
 
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