A clerk that refuses to issue a marriage license to a same sex couple because they are a Christian.
A clerk that refuses to issue a permit to a slaughterhouse because they are a Buddhist.
A clerk that refuses to issue a liquor license because they are a Muslim.
A clerk that refuses to issue a drilling permit because they are a wiccan.
There is nothing demonstrably true that religion can provide the world that cannot be achieved more rationally through entirely secular means.
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That's her choice. Not yours. Nobody is telling you how to live your life, so you don't get to tell her how to live hers.![]()
I admire her discipline. I couldn't (or wouldn't) do it because I don't believe the way she does. But I give her props for living the way she has for as long as she has. She has faced a lot of adversity over the last 5 years or so, and she still hasn't given up.
~*~ That's part of your problem: you haven't seen enough movies. All of life's riddles are answered in the movies. ~*~
Originally Posted by Checkerboard Strangler
Last edited by Cephus; 06-30-15 at 04:19 PM.
There is nothing demonstrably true that religion can provide the world that cannot be achieved more rationally through entirely secular means.
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Or maybe you could stop being so insensitive. It's her faith and it's been with her for 40 years. You aren't a person of faith, so I know that you don't understand, but someone who has had this way of life their entire life can't (or won't) walk away from it anymore than one could expect you to wake up one morning and decide to become a God-fearing Christian.
And I didn't get mad at you.![]()
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Originally Posted by Checkerboard Strangler
That is the paradox of the Roman Church argument. They insist the marriage is intact despite decades of separation while ignoring the other "sin" of living together in civic union.
It has been taught that the Romans base that no remarry clause on "what I have brought together, let no man put asunder". They assume that because THEY performed a ceremony He was in it. From personal experience I have to ask how that can be, as Jesus was also clear no one will stand between and his sheep....in other words he ended "divine clergy", that and the fact the guy who performed my first marriage was as drunk as a skunk
A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.
I used to be a Christian for a very long time, then I grew up. So yes, I do understand. But this is the point, she is doing it to herself, nobody is holding a gun to her head and forcing her to profess this particular faith. Apparently your brother didn't have a problem walking away from something he believed for a long time. Yes, it's her choice, but you also have to acknowledge her part in that choice and her responsibility for what happens to her because of that choice.
There is nothing demonstrably true that religion can provide the world that cannot be achieved more rationally through entirely secular means.
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How the hell did this thread get on the topic of Catholic marriage and who cares? It doesn't have anything to do with Muslims who work for the government not giving out liquor licenses.
Horse sense is the thing a horse has which keeps it from betting on people. ~W.C. Fields
All four of them. Not immediately, but they should be disciplined, and if they keep it up, they should be fired.
If your job is to do X, and your religion forbids doing X, don't take the job. If your job didn't used to require you to do X, that's too bad, but now it does, so you should find a new job. Your religion isn't a valid reason to avoid doing your job duties and not get fired. This is no different that people who are required to work on religious holidays.
If you build a man a fire, he'll be warm for a day.
If you set a man on fire, he'll be warm for the rest of his life.
I don't know - I'm not Catholic, but did ask my husband about it, and he mentioned how Jackie Kennedy had to go to the Pope to get an annulment so she could marry Onassis.
I do know quite a bit about the religion my sister-in-law is in. Most of my family is in that religion, so I know how seriously they take it.
~*~ That's part of your problem: you haven't seen enough movies. All of life's riddles are answered in the movies. ~*~
Originally Posted by Checkerboard Strangler