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    Re: Are People Of Religious Faith Typically Bigots?

    Quote Originally Posted by Cephus View Post
    Definition of the word:

    big·ot
    ˈbiɡət/
    noun
    a person who is intolerant toward those holding different opinions
    So it has nothing to do with believing what they believe?
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    Re: Are People Of Religious Faith Typically Bigots?

    Quote Originally Posted by Cephus View Post
    It's not just an opinion. An opinion is "I like chocolate ice cream". This is a claim about the state of objective reality. That's like saying gravity is an opinion. It is not.
    would you prefer i use the word 'superstition'? I mean, you have often heard the (in your opinion, cop-out) "i don't hate them, god hates them"; "i'm not judging them, god is."

    So in that context, how is believing adultery is a sin by definition bigotry? It seems to me that only once they attach personal hatred - rather than unthinking submission to their bible - and attempt to make the act illegal in our laws does it veer into intolerance

    I fear that if we use your definition, everyone is a bigot about a great many things.
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    Re: Are People Of Religious Faith Typically Bigots?

    Quote Originally Posted by Fearandloathing View Post
    We are somewhat off the topic, but yes all religions have their orthodoxies....in the Sikh faith they fight over whether to allow tables and chairs in Temples.

    Bigotry to one degree or another exists in all of us. What is not acceptable is calling an entire group of anything bigots, it add hypocrisy and arrogance to the equation.
    That would seem reasonable, unless all of the group were truly bigots.

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    Re: Are People Of Religious Faith Typically Bigots?

    Quote Originally Posted by chromium View Post
    would you prefer i use the word 'superstition'? I mean, you have often heard the (in your opinion, cop-out) "i don't hate them, god hates them"; "i'm not judging them, god is."

    So in that context, how is believing adultery is a sin by definition bigotry? It seems to me that only once they attach personal hatred - rather than unthinking submission to their bible - and attempt to make the act illegal in our laws does it veer into intolerance

    I fear that if we use your definition, everyone is a bigot about a great many things.
    That is why judicial laws change more so than religious laws I suppose... because all the people changing the laws are bigots...

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    Re: Are People Of Religious Faith Typically Bigots?

    Quote Originally Posted by Pozessed View Post
    That would seem reasonable, unless all of the group were truly bigots.
    Then that depends on the group. In this case...MILLIONS of Christians.
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    Re: Are People Of Religious Faith Typically Bigots?

    Quote Originally Posted by stonewall50 View Post
    Then that depends on the group. In this case...MILLIONS of Christians.
    and Muslims, and Jews, etc

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    Re: Are People Of Religious Faith Typically Bigots?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kreton View Post
    Do you consider yourself a bigot?
    Only in regard of people harming other people. Aside from that my opinion is always willing to be persuaded. I'll allow anyone to try and convince me of anything. That doesn't mean I have to accept their view, but I'll at least be tolerant enough to listen and respect what they say.

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    Re: Are People Of Religious Faith Typically Bigots?

    All religions do, in fact, teach at least one form of bigotry: that believers are somehow superior to nonbelievers. They may teach other forms of bigotry as part of their theology, but it's not required.

    If you're going to restrict your definition of bigotry only to openly hostile acts, you get a different answer to the question.
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    Re: Are People Of Religious Faith Typically Bigots?

    Quote Originally Posted by DifferentDrummr View Post
    All religions do, in fact, teach at least one form of bigotry: that believers are somehow superior to nonbelievers. They may teach other forms of bigotry as part of their theology, but it's not required.

    If you're going to restrict your definition of bigotry only to openly hostile acts, you get a different answer to the question.
    I agree with what you say. But I'm confused with the last part. Can you elaborate on that a little more please?

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    Re: Are People Of Religious Faith Typically Bigots?

    Quote Originally Posted by Pozessed View Post
    I agree with what you say. But I'm confused with the last part. Can you elaborate on that a little more please?
    Well, you can consider yourself (a believer) superior to someone else (a nonbeliever) without being hostile to that individual. Even a misguided attempt to convert the person, although very annoying, isn't necessarily hostile.
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