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    The President decides that he can't enforce a law due to his religous convictions

    Poll: Should the President be able to refuse to enforce laws based on religious beliefs?

    for example, the President believes that the deportation of illegal aliens conflicts with Matthew 25:35-40

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    The president believes SSM is immoral so s/he instructs the IRS to disallow tax deductions based on SSM
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    Re: The President decides that he can't enforce a law due to his religous convictions

    I think it's honorable that he stands up for his convictions. Unfortunately, it will be fought, and fought hard. Can't intermingle church and state.

    But yeah - to me it's impressive. Gotta be hard to take a stand on something that you know will make the other side hate you even more.
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    Re: The President decides that he can't enforce a law due to his religous convictions

    The President also is required to follow the law. We will be forced to hide the chuckle over the laws some Presidents have broken.
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    Re: The President decides that he can't enforce a law due to his religous convictions

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    Poll: Should the President be able to refuse to enforce laws based on religious beliefs?

    for example, the President believes that the deportation of illegal aliens conflicts with Matthew 25:35-40


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    Re: The President decides that he can't enforce a law due to his religous convictions

    "No man is above the law and no man is below it: nor do we ask any man's permission when we ask him to obey it."

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    Re: The President decides that he can't enforce a law due to his religous convictions

    Anyone who does that has no business being president. Of course, that probably disqualifies around 3/4 of all the presidents we've had.
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    Re: The President decides that he can't enforce a law due to his religous convictions

    Quote Originally Posted by Korimyr the Rat View Post
    "No man is above the law and no man is below it: nor do we ask any man's permission when we ask him to obey it."

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    The Roosevelt's were dolts, and power hungry. That quote being one of Theodore's lesser moments of doltishness. The quote for this country is a contradiction. For the law to stand, permission must be granted by the governed to honor it however implicitly or explicitly, otherwise the law becomes just not more than some dried ink and paper.
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    Re: The President decides that he can't enforce a law due to his religous convictions

    his oath says he will defend the Constitution
    his faith cannot interfere with that obligation



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    Re: The President decides that he can't enforce a law due to his religous convictions

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    Poll: Should the President be able to refuse to enforce laws based on religious beliefs?

    for example, the President believes that the deportation of illegal aliens conflicts with Matthew 25:35-40



    2nd example

    The president believes SSM is immoral so s/he instructs the IRS to disallow tax deductions based on SSM
    The President swears an Oath when he enters that Office.

    “I do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will faithfully execute the Office of President of the United States, and will to the best of my Ability, preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States.”

    Nowhere in that Oath does it give a qualifier of "But only if I agree with it."
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    Re: The President decides that he can't enforce a law due to his religous convictions

    No, his/her official actions as president are an action of the state, not a personal choice, and therefore violating the separation of church and state. If something like this were to be implemented, it would have the potential for the president to basically have unlimited power. "Religious beliefs" is an ambiguous term, and any ideological stance can be justified by religious beliefs (though these justifications are often poor).
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