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    Re: Is SSM a "dead" issue, now?

    Only until the balance on the Supreme Court changes. If the court should become more right leaning, we could see it challenged again, just like Roe.
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    Re: Is SSM a "dead" issue, now?

    Quote Originally Posted by X Factor View Post
    I think so. I think we now live in a world where SSM is no longer an issue and all arguments, pro and con, are now moot.

    Seriously, that's actually difficult to wrap my mind around. All the time and energy arguing about who is and isn't pro/anti SSM and why they are and are not is moot. Like the ruling or not, the issue has been settled and it will never go back. Continuing to dwell on it and argue it, especially on the anti-SSM side is pointless. You're just making yourselves miserable over something that most likely will have zero impact on your life. On the pro side, you have every right to celebrate, but maybe you could try to be happy rather than hateful. C'mon, it's supposed easy to be magnanimous when you win (and you have won).

    I, for one, look forward to all the furor settling down. Honestly, this issue felt a little like it tore me in two, understanding arguments on both sides and feeling that there are good hearted and sincere people on both sides, which was probably the most lonely position of all.

    Anyway, do you agree with me that once all the victory laps have been run and all the anger has subsided (and it will with time - it always does), this is essentially a dead issue?

    Now what are we gonna talk about?

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    Re: Is SSM a "dead" issue, now?

    SSM is not in danger of being overturned, but just as Roe v Wade is settled law, its not a "dead" issue. You'll see both sides of the issue campaign raise money,


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    Re: Is SSM a "dead" issue, now?

    I grant that Canadians are saner people when it comes to politics, but here in Canada we've recently celebrated 10 years of SSM and it's never discussed by anyone outside of wedding planners and divorce lawyers.

    It will be a dead issue in the US in no time, but fringe elements will still try to expand gay rights and fringe elements will still try to stop them so on the fringes it will smolder, but even American fanatics have short attention spans so the next problem will soon take up all the air.
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    Re: Is SSM a "dead" issue, now?

    It should be, but the conservative corporate interests will keep the issue alive for a long time for use as a weapon of mass distraction. They want people to endlessly argue about school prayer, abortion, sex ed, flag burning and SSM because it will take attention away from the issues that would threaten their financial interests if there was greater public awareness of their practices and intentions.

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    Re: Is SSM a "dead" issue, now?

    In a generation or two, all the backwards people who are squealing that they can't be "forced to accept it" will be gone and this kind of bigotry will be seen as absurd, just like what happened with interracial marriage. That's when this will be a dead issue.
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    Re: Is SSM a "dead" issue, now?

    Quote Originally Posted by Goshin View Post
    No, they're not economic rightists. They're not full on economic leftists either. They're pragmatic. They want the opportunities of capitalism, but if they run into trouble along their path to prosperity they want a good safety net to protect them from failure as well. Center-left, perhaps.

    Socially, they seem like liberal/progressives on the surface, but in many instances they seem more libertarian-ish... more concerned with individual liberty (as opposed to identity politics). Many, for instance, are strong supporters of 2A rights, more commonly seen as a conservative or libertarian issue.

    I suspect we're going to find them to be a rather unique voting demographic over the next couple decades as they come to power, who defy most of the conventional labels and ideologies in favor of a pragmatic pursuit of their preferred condition.

    Sorry but I don't agree here at all (Nor does the data). I could humor your attempts to categorize younger Americans as Libertarian or Conservative but the problem is we have the polls. We have their voting records. And they're unanimous. Younger Americans en-mass voted for Obama if they voted at all. They also support socially liberal positions that traditionally have even been opposed by Libertarians such as economically Left policies of Obama.

    Your attempts to declare younger Americans as "uncountable" are not fooling anybody. They're social liberals and you simply don't like it. I've noticed on this forum that it's in fashion among conservative posters to label themselves "Independents" and "Libertarians" and then you read their posts and it's the most mainline Republican talking points you can imagine. Again, nobody's being fooled friend.

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    Re: Is SSM a "dead" issue, now?

    Quote Originally Posted by Paschendale View Post
    In a generation or two, all the backwards people who are squealing that they can't be "forced to accept it" will be gone and this kind of bigotry will be seen as absurd, just like what happened with interracial marriage. That's when this will be a dead issue.
    If history repeats itself, the Democrats will become conservative and the Republicans will become liberal, and the Democrats will repeatedly point out that Republicans blocked same sex marriage the whole time.

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    Re: Is SSM a "dead" issue, now?

    Quote Originally Posted by Cardinal View Post
    If history repeats itself, the Democrats will become conservative and the Republicans will become liberal, and the Democrats will repeatedly point out that Republicans blocked same sex marriage the whole time.
    I hope not. People pretending that the Dixiecrats had anything to do with liberals is really obnoxious.
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    Re: Is SSM a "dead" issue, now?

    Quote Originally Posted by DVSentinel View Post
    Only until the balance on the Supreme Court changes. If the court should become more right leaning, we could see it challenged again, just like Roe.
    I don't think so. I think cultural SSM is very different from abortion. Within a generation or two support for SSM will, I think, be near total. I don't think you will see much vitriol aimed at it save for a few select niches of interest.

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