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    Re: Is SSM a "dead" issue, now?

    I was GOING to vote that it is now a dead issue but it looks like some conservative politicians are not going to let it die.

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    Re: Is SSM a "dead" issue, now?

    Quote Originally Posted by BrewerBob View Post
    I was GOING to vote that it is now a dead issue but it looks like some conservative politicians are not going to let it die.
    Yeah, but for how long? I think this is a natural part of the process. People who don't get their way go all for awhile, then they sigh and give up and move on to something else. That's what I think will happen here. Six months and it'll be mostly forgotten.
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    Re: Is SSM a "dead" issue, now?

    In the US, it's dying down for sure. I doubt we'll be talking about it a year from now. However, in the rest of the world, no, and gay rights is certainly not dead; there are still many things to fight for.
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    Re: Is SSM a "dead" issue, now?

    As long as fake news placates to the religious nut job right, it will be an issue.
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    You have no empirical evidence backing up your false assertion. You are simply conjecturing based on a whim...

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    Re: Is SSM a "dead" issue, now?

    Quote Originally Posted by Your Star View Post
    In the US, it's dying down for sure. I doubt we'll be talking about it a year from now. However, in the rest of the world, no, and gay rights is certainly not dead; there are still many things to fight for.
    It's not like most care about any social issues that occur globally... if they did, The middle east against woman and LGBT would be a great concern.
    Or woman in Japan...
    Or people in China...
    Or woman in India...
    Patriarchy still rules outside of west Europe and the US... to a much higher degree than any discrimination you'll ever find in the US.

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    Re: Is SSM a "dead" issue, now?

    Quote Originally Posted by Your Star View Post
    In the US, it's dying down for sure. I doubt we'll be talking about it a year from now. However, in the rest of the world, no, and gay rights is certainly not dead; there are still many things to fight for.
    Agreed, but while the OP didn't restrict the geography, I didn't take his question to include the rest of the world.

    I could be mistaken, though.
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    Re: Is SSM a "dead" issue, now?

    What's this "proof of concept" thing I see popping up sporadically throughout the thread?

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    Re: Is SSM a "dead" issue, now?

    Quote Originally Posted by radcen View Post
    Yeah, but for how long? I think this is a natural part of the process. People who don't get their way go all for awhile, then they sigh and give up and move on to something else. That's what I think will happen here. Six months and it'll be mostly forgotten.
    After the Hobby Lobby decision half of the country (and this board) was convinced that they weren't going to be able to get contraceptives anywhere at any time. And that was almost a year ago to the day. One year ago tomorrow, in fact. You seldom if ever hear about it, and I don't think anyone lost her contraceptives over it either.
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    Re: Is SSM a "dead" issue, now?

    Quote Originally Posted by radcen View Post
    There are two mistakes people are making in this thread.

    1) Presuming that "dead" means it will never ever come up again. No, it doesn't mean that. As with pretty much *any* issue, there will be some people who will piss and moan, and may even challenge, but after the dust settles this issue will be like most others people will go about their lives and the issue of SSM will be lived with. That makes it "dead".

    2) Comparing this to abortion. Abortion is special in that it is an outlier. Comparing abortion to almost any other issue isn't really an apples-to-apples comparison here.
    Nicely said, and I agree with both.

    I also think that most GOP candidates are breathing a collective sigh of relief that this didn't become an election issue. Some will make it an election issue (Huckabee for instance) but most will run from it with pleasure. Sure there will be lawsuits going on for years but that shouldn't be surprising. And you're right, there is no comparison at all to the abortion debate in this one.
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    Re: Is SSM a "dead" issue, now?

    Quote Originally Posted by CanadaJohn View Post
    I grant that Canadians are saner people when it comes to politics, but here in Canada we've recently celebrated 10 years of SSM and it's never discussed by anyone outside of wedding planners and divorce lawyers.

    It will be a dead issue in the US in no time, but fringe elements will still try to expand gay rights and fringe elements will still try to stop them so on the fringes it will smolder, but even American fanatics have short attention spans so the next problem will soon take up all the air.
    The clear difference is that your top court actually follows your constitution. Unlike ours.
    Roberts wrote: "If you are among the many Americans -- of whatever sexual orientation -- who favor expanding same-sex marriage, by all means celebrate today's decision. ... But do not celebrate the Constitution. It had nothing to do with it."

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