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  • arranged child marriage

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  • caste marriage

    1 50.00%
  • group marriage

    1 50.00%
  • incest/cousin marriage

    1 50.00%
  • lavender marriage

    1 50.00%
  • levirate marriage

    1 50.00%
  • polygamy

    2 100.00%
  • posthumous marriage

    1 50.00%
  • sexless/childless marriage

    2 100.00%
  • temporary marriage

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    To the anti SSM crowd: Which traditional forms of marriage should be allowed?

    "The husband is the head of the family and the wife is subject to him; her legal civil existence is merged in the husband" - georgia law, 1971

    explaining my list here in a historical context...

    well if you only care about the bible, there is this:



    However, in oral arguments kennedy seemed concerned about upsetting "thousands of years of human tradition" so here you have it:


    arranged child marriage - still the norm in most of africa/asia; for most of this region's history, example: boys from age 7 work as slaves of the future bride's family to 'pay off' the debt (variation on "shim-pua" in taiwan)


    caste marriage - can only marry those within your social/economic/community hierarchy, much of india's history

    group marriage - multiple husbands and wives joined together, ancient hawaii and various native tribes, the oneida in US

    lavender marriage - a gay man and lesbian marry, according to some a viable alternative to SSM

    levirate marriage - a widow is forced to marry her dead husband's brother, too many cultures to list

    intra-racial only - bans on 'race mixing' in US in various states from 1664 to 1971, upheld by supreme court even after the 14th amendment

    incest and cousin marriage - common in middle east to this day, roughly 1/10 marriages worldwide, legal in all US states until civil war and still legal in 20 states

    no marriage allowed - southern chinese cultures like the Na

    polygamy - too many cultures to list, still roughly 50% of marriages in west/central africa

    posthumous marriage - a living person marries a dead one, legal and common in france and senegal, a few cases in the US, longstanding tradition in japan

    temporary marriage - a contracted marriage that ends after predetermined period, sometimes probationary in case the wife doesn't satisfy her husband, ancient scottish tradition that continued until 1939, also common in shia islam
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    Re: To the anti SSM crowd: Which traditional forms of marriage should be allowed?

    How does one "allow" not allowing marriages?
    Social democrat is no longer an accurate description of my views.

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    Re: To the anti SSM crowd: Which traditional forms of marriage should be allowed?

    Quote Originally Posted by SocialDemocrat View Post
    How does one "allow" not allowing marriages?
    if marriage is not a constitutional right as some argue, it can be banned completely as well

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    Re: To the anti SSM crowd: Which traditional forms of marriage should be allowed?

    Sigh. How long is this dumb ass tactic going to be used? You damn well know what they mean and it's not that dumb ****.

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    Re: To the anti SSM crowd: Which traditional forms of marriage should be allowed?

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    Sigh. How long is this dumb ass tactic going to be used? You damn well know what they mean and it's not that dumb ****.
    i know what they mean, and it's my way of exposing their hypocrisy. I wouldn't know how to strawman a strawman. Now answer the poll that's addressed to you, or GTFO

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    Re: To the anti SSM crowd: Which traditional forms of marriage should be allowed?

    Quote Originally Posted by chromium View Post
    i know what they mean, and it's my way of exposing their hypocrisy. Now answer the poll that's addressed to you, or GTFO
    It's not addressed to me, but your hackish trollish retardation still deserves disdain. It's not hypocrisy either, but you would probably have to be aware of their reference point to know that.

    This is also not your tactic, but something you're parroting from others.

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    Re: To the anti SSM crowd: Which traditional forms of marriage should be allowed?

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    It's not addressed to me, but your hackish trollish retardation still deserves disdain. It's not hypocrisy either, but you would probably have to be aware of their reference point to know that.

    This is also not your tactic, but something you're parroting from others.
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    Re: To the anti SSM crowd: Which traditional forms of marriage should be allowed?

    not playing any derailing games, either explain why you support the above but oppose SSM, or you oppose those traditional marriages but claim marriage is "always man and wife," or i'm not interested

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    Re: To the anti SSM crowd: Which traditional forms of marriage should be allowed?

    Quote Originally Posted by chromium View Post
    "The husband is the head of the family and the wife is subject to him; her legal civil existence is merged in the husband" - georgia law, 1971

    explaining my list here in a historical context...
    Actually, I want to give you kudos for bringing those up. I knew about all of them (though not by all the names you listed). But you're referring to instances that have been rejected (or are in the process of being rejected e.g. caste marriage) by the worldwide culture as a whole.

    And yes, I refer to 'worldwide culture' because we are forming exactly that. Those places that still practice what you listed above are (in most cases) under international pressure to stop those practices. It's only a matter of time. Not only that, but SSM is meant to be something between two consenting adults - but most of those you listed didn't leave room for little things like 'consent'.

    Something else to consider is that it has only recently become understood and accepted among most people in the world today that people really are "born that way". A homosexual is born with homosexual tendencies. A bisexual is born with tendencies for both.

    Besides, if you'll think about it, if it really were a case of "God made Adam and Eve, not Adam and Steve", then God would not allow natural hermaphrodites to be born. Yes, they're very rare, but they are born with both male and female genitalia. That fact in and of itself shows that God DOES allow such to be born...and that there's more to human sexuality than just "Adam and Eve".
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    Re: To the anti SSM crowd: Which traditional forms of marriage should be allowed?

    Quote Originally Posted by chromium View Post
    not playing any derailing games, either explain why you support the above but oppose SSM, or you oppose those traditional marriages but claim marriage is "always man and wife," or i'm not interested
    No one is going to take this seriously that opposes SSM. You should try an argument that shows that you understand your opponents and doesn't come off as trolling.

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