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    Re: Do you feel Christians are Discriminated against in America?

    Quote Originally Posted by Cardinal View Post
    Actually, you just defined political correctness.
    We'll have to disagree. I think political correctness is the antithesis of good manners.
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    Re: Do you feel Christians are Discriminated against in America?

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Hays View Post
    We'll have to disagree. I think political correctness is the antithesis of good manners.
    "Political correctness" is a reworded term for the etiquette of the day.

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    Re: Do you feel Christians are Discriminated against in America?

    Quote Originally Posted by brothern View Post
    Being made fun of is not persecution.

    Look, here's the analogy. There's a few serious people in this world who wholeheartedly believe that Elvis is still alive. There's not millions of people who believe that. Nor are there hundreds of institutions, universities or churches dedicated to the continuation of the belief. No, as Harris once pointed out, whenever someone seriously represents their belief that Elvis is still alive; that person immediately pays a social price in barely contained laughter. When then that person continues that train of thought -- "It's a matter faith that Elvis is alive", "You cannot NOT prove Elvis is still alive," "I'm going to eat crackers and sign hymns about Elvis" -- that really demonstrates how asinine those beliefs are.

    With persecution, we've not passed laws against the belief that Elvis is alive. We're not throwing Elvis-believers in jail or are actively depriving them of their freedoms. We're just demonstrating, through the act of laughter, that the belief of an ancient Bedouin man performing a bunch of unrealistic magic tricks before raising himself from the dead, which goes against everything a learned person in the 21st Century knows about biology, physics, chemistry, etc., is a stupid idea that no serious person ought believe. It deserves every snicker and chuckle it has going for it.
    Hey now, I saw Elvis driving a car just outside of Myrtle Beach while I was in high school. He was driving a really old, crappy car, and passed us as we were going through a green light. This was about 19 years ago, so it is very possible that he moved by now.

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    Keep your religion out of other people's marriages.

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    Re: Do you feel Christians are Discriminated against in America?

    Quote Originally Posted by Cardinal View Post
    "Political correctness" is a reworded term for the etiquette of the day.

    I could not disagree more. Etiquette is to political correctness as a Van Gogh is to house paint.
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    Re: Do you feel Christians are Discriminated against in America?

    Quote Originally Posted by Manc Skipper View Post
    Christians believe Christ rose again. Beyond that, they pick and choose all sorts of deviations and tenets to follow, some quite bizarre. That's why there are hundreds of separate tiny schisms cults and sectarian divides within it. I'm sure you are in no position to pass judgement on his faith or otherwise.
    Hundreds? There are over 40K official brands (denominations) of Christianity in the world. That doesn't really even cover individual Christians' beliefs.
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    Re: Do you feel Christians are Discriminated against in America?

    Quote Originally Posted by Amadeus View Post
    It's getting better, but's its still a problem. Being an atheist or agnostic requires nuance, and most voting folk people don't get nuance. To many, not having religious belief (namely Christian belief) is akin to worshiping the Devil.

    There is good news. The fastest growing belief system is... none of the above.
    It is kind of uncomfortable for me to share that I am not Christian at work. I tend to keep it to myself, even though I will share if it comes up, and I know that many people simply assume that I am Christian most of the time, whether it is during my Navy duty or at work. I don't know how often people will tell me things like "Jesus be with you" or some other such phrase that assumes I am Christian and share their beliefs, at least the very base ones, or challenges me to say something against that statement.
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    Re: Do you feel Christians are Discriminated against in America?

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Hays View Post
    I could not disagree more. Etiquette is to political correctness as a Van Gogh is to house paint.
    I can see how you might think that, but political correctness is merely going out of your way not to be gratuitously offensive.
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    Re: Do you feel Christians are Discriminated against in America?

    Quote Originally Posted by BrewerBob View Post
    In general no. There are, as always, exceptions.
    This. There are some individual Christians in rare circumstances that are discriminated against, almost certainly. As a whole, or even just in general, no Christians are not discriminated against. Christians themselves are too big of a group to actually share enough beliefs that those beliefs cause them to be discriminated against as a group, at least not in the US, where most people consider themselves to be Christian.
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    Re: Do you feel Christians are Discriminated against in America?

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Hays View Post
    Conservative Christians are the only religious/cultural group whom it is permissible to mock publicly. Having no religion myself, I offer that as a simple observation.
    The term "Conservative Christian" is oxymoronic.

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    Re: Do you feel Christians are Discriminated against in America?

    Quote Originally Posted by Manc Skipper View Post
    I can see how you might think that, but political correctness is merely going out of your way not to be gratuitously offensive.
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