BTW: I have read "A Universe From Nothing" they really don't make that point. They define nothing as an alternate universe with an imbalance of mater and antimatter allowing particles to pop into existence into our universe (if memory serves). That is definitely not "nothing"
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"It is only when men contemplate the greatness of God that they can come to realize their own inadequacy." Jean Calvin
The two possibilities I entertained were a choice between the supernatural and the natural. Seeing as we understand basic biology in way that doesn't require the supernatural (and again, we can even predict it reliably), then the natural as an avenue for the creation of the universe is plausible. And based on what we have been able to understand to present, it seems even more likely.I agree almost completely. But I wouldn't limit it to two. There are probably a countless number of explanations and possibilities that we have not yet evolved enough to yet understand.
Cool.Wasn't guaranteeing anything. Just my logic behind why I believe it. I am very accepting of the possibility that I am wrong.
Based on what we know now, the likelihood of that "could" is diminishing daily.I would argue that it would lead us to conclude that some other avenue could have resulted in the creation of the universe.
But we don't. We understand biology from a certain starting point. We don't have a way to comprehend how to get to that point.Seeing as we understand basic biology in way that doesn't require the supernatural (and again, we can even predict it reliably),
No matter how far you go back to the creation of the universe, it always comes back to supernatural. Different types of supernatural but neither seems natural to me. If there is a God and this God created our universe that is supernatural. If an entire universe created itself from absolutely nothing that is pretty supernatural as well.then the natural as an avenue for the creation of the universe is plausible
And based on your statement above it would sound like you agree at the very least that the possibility of God (solely as a creator) exists. Regardless of the how unlikely you believe it to be, you are kind of stating above the possibility is there.