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    Re: Do you feel Christians are Discriminated against in America?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kreton View Post
    You believe God doesn't exist. Lack of belief would be saying I don't know or not taking any stance at all. But you have taken a stance. You have stated a belief. A belief that God does not exist.
    Repeating the same lie over and over again doesn't make it any more true. It just shows that you're dishonest.
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    Re: Do you feel Christians are Discriminated against in America?

    Quote Originally Posted by Manc Skipper View Post
    Until God's existence is proven, then at best it's moot, but it doesn't even reach that level of evidence.
    The existence of something doesn't rely on it being proven. We got here somehow. The planets got here somewhere. The universe got here somehow. However that is, it has not been proven. But we are here, and it happened. The lack of proof of whatever ends up being right, doesn't change that the right answer is right. Hopefully that makes sense.
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    Re: Do you feel Christians are Discriminated against in America?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kreton View Post
    Countless people have looked at the evidence and still come to believe objectively that God exists. You came to a different conclusion. No one on Earth, no one in the history of mankind, knows the answers to questions that religion attempts to answer. You can take the smartest men of all time, give them unlimited resources, hell they can even stay at a holiday inn express, and in the end they wont come up with anything but a theory.
    No, because by definition, objectivity means without human bias. Please present specific objective evidence, evidence that anyone can see without having to believe anything about it first, which proves the factual existence of your specific God. Go ahead, we'll wait... a very, very, very long time.
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    Re: Do you feel Christians are Discriminated against in America?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kreton View Post
    You believe God doesn't exist. Lack of belief would be saying I don't know or not taking any stance at all. But you have taken a stance. You have stated a belief. A belief that God does not exist.
    Wrong, he has no reason to believe in something not known to exist. That's the literal meaning of atheist - "Lack of a belief in Gods." Your inability to conceive of nonbelief is not his problem.
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    Re: Do you feel Christians are Discriminated against in America?

    Quote Originally Posted by Cephus View Post
    Repeating the same lie over and over again doesn't make it any more true. It just shows that you're dishonest.
    How am I dishonest? You say things, but can you support anything claim? Or is this another instance of "i don't have to".
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    Re: Do you feel Christians are Discriminated against in America?

    Quote Originally Posted by Manc Skipper View Post
    Wrong, he has no reason to believe in something not known to exist. That's the literal meaning of atheist - "Lack of a belief in Gods." Your inability to conceive of nonbelief is not his problem.
    I'll explain again. If the question is "Does God exist?" if a person answers yes or no then they do have a belief. No belief would be saying "I don't know".
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    Re: Do you feel Christians are Discriminated against in America?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kreton View Post
    I'll explain again. If the question is "Does God exist?" if a person answers yes or no then they do have a belief. No belief would be saying "I don't know".
    c)I have no reason to seriously consider the possibility of a god.

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    Re: Do you feel Christians are Discriminated against in America?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kreton View Post
    How am I dishonest? You say things, but can you support anything claim? Or is this another instance of "i don't have to".
    Because you keep claiming people believe things they don't believe, that is a lie. You are a liar. You continue to lie. Are you unaware of the definition of words?
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    Re: Do you feel Christians are Discriminated against in America?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kreton View Post
    I'll explain again. If the question is "Does God exist?" if a person answers yes or no then they do have a belief. No belief would be saying "I don't know".
    That isn't their argument. Their argument is that they don't believe YOU. You are making the claim that God exists. You didn't provide evidence. Ergo they do not believe in your God. Take it one step further. They have never seen definitive evidence of God. They don't believe in God. There is evidence of evolution: that is why they believe in it.

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    Re: Do you feel Christians are Discriminated against in America?

    Quote Originally Posted by Cephus View Post
    No, because by definition, objectivity means without human bias. Please present specific objective evidence, evidence that anyone can see without having to believe anything about it first, which proves the factual existence of your specific God. Go ahead, we'll wait... a very, very, very long time.
    There is no ojbectivity means without human bias. This argument works on any theory that has ever existed about how the universe came to be. I could ask you the same thing about how you believe the universe came to exist. You can't prove it any more than anyone else can. I know that because if you could, you would.
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